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NorthloopCup

NorthloopCup

ClioSport Moderator
I've been to collect my engine under shield/skid plate today after it's been welded up.
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Pleased with how it's turned out even if it does f**k all. Lol!

More to come.
 
Jamie86

Jamie86

ClioSport Club Member
  RS175,595,205gti,172
NorthloopCup said:
The inner tart in me rushed to the surface when I got told the under shield was ready to collect, so I hastily bought these: View attachment 154304It's nice to know that when I run someone over, they'll at least get to see what levels of detail I've gone to for their benefit. Flol

More to come.
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Or when you take too much kerb at the "Ring :grin:
 
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Mr R.

ClioSport Club Member
  A special one.
Congratulations Mark to yourself and the better half, children are amazing I just couldn't be without my two. They have made my life complete. X

I'm sure you will enjoy every minute, they really do grow up so fast.
 
eon172

eon172

  Clio 172 (CUP)
Just catching up on your thread and for any ideas to steal, ahem borrow, it's looking great!

Fab news about the little'un, congratulations to you both.
 
Chris15

Chris15

  Clio 172, Abarth 500
Probably the greatest, he did so much more for the sport in and out of the car. Even after he passed, his legacy still did more for the sport.
 
Greeny.

Greeny.

ClioSport Club Member
  440i + 182
Wheels look great btw, I can never be arsed to make mine look to pretty as they are always a disaster after a track session :(
 
Greeny.

Greeny.

ClioSport Club Member
  440i + 182
I never liked my ds2500's on my old car, shite compared to the cl rc5's I had before that. Think I'll be going with ds1.11's when the time comes, bedding then in put me off abit tbh as its a lot of money to loose if I f**k it up!
 
NorthloopCup

NorthloopCup

ClioSport Moderator
Greeny. said:
I never liked my ds2500's on my old car, shite compared to the cl rc5's I had before that. Think I'll be going with ds1.11's when the time comes, bedding then in put me off abit tbh as its a lot of money to loose if I f**k it up!
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I've only had ds2500's so I have nothing to compare them too other than yellowstuff. The yellowstuff survived half a lap of the 'Ring before they overheated. The only good thing that came from that was finding out that I could take one particular corner at 110mph. Lol! Not like I had any choice in the matter though tbf!

With the 2500's all I did to bed them in was 10 heavy braking applications from 80-10 mph, then drove normally without touching the brakes to let them cool down. After that they were problem/fade free. Admittedly though, I'm not a late braking hero so not heavy on brakes.
I'll be bedding the ds1.11's in a similar way.
 
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seanconnolly

ClioSport Club Member
  clio 182
NorthloopCup said:
With the 2500's all I did to bed them in was 10 heavy braking applications from 80-10 mph, then drove normally without touching the brakes to let them cool down. After that they were problem/fade free. Admittedly though, I'm not a late braking hero so not heavy on brakes.
I'll be bedding the ds1.11's in a similar way.
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I need to learn to bed brakes in properly I warped a brand new set of high carbon discs at snett, it's hard to use the car as its sorn and goes every where on the truck now, what was I doing wrong I was using the brakes quite a lot on the sighting lap trying to get heat in them a bit, by lunch they were warped I'm obviously doing something wrong lol
 
NorthloopCup

NorthloopCup

ClioSport Moderator
seanconnolly said:
I need to learn to bed brakes in properly I warped a brand new set of high carbon discs at snett, it's hard to use the car as its sorn and goes every where on the truck now, what was I doing wrong I was using the brakes quite a lot on the sighting lap trying to get heat in them a bit, by lunch they were warped I'm obviously doing something wrong lol
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All I do is 10 medium stops from 60-20, then drive for 5 mins normally without using the brakes. Then it's 10 heavy stops from 80-10 but never stopping fully. Then, same thing as above. Drive normal for 5 mins without using the brakes. After that I use the brakes reasonably lightly, then leave them to cool fully.
 
sonny172cup

sonny172cup

Well technically its the discs your bedding in, main reason why you should match discs to pad compounds unless you skim the disc of the old pad compound. I know ppl who have wet weather discs and pads for instance.
 
NorthloopCup

NorthloopCup

ClioSport Moderator
Ok so it's time for an update.

Last weekend kermit was loaded up on to the back of my mates flatbed and taken up to EFI Parts in Runcorn. It was time for Scoff to work his mapping magic and get to the bottom of the intermittent starting dramas.
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Mapping was originally booked for the following Saturday.............well the cup had other thoughts on that.
Initially Scoff was struggling to get it to run and a few emails were exchanged between us as he thought there was an issue within the loom itself. Things weren't looking good! My patience with the cup was at an all time low. Thursday evening arrived, and so did an email from Scoff.
He'd managed to find the cause of the issue! The throttle body wasn't working correctly - happily buzzing away and the pitch was changing when the pedal was pressed. Was the flap moving? Was it f**k!! Scoff changed a few things in the gen90 so that it would read from track 2 in the fbw tb. Unfortunately it was just too late for us to be in with a chance of mapping on Saturday, so Scoff suggested that the dyno time be better spent running it in, dialling in the vvc (more on this shortly) and generally getting a good base calibration done on the engine.

So a bit about the vvc. For those of you that don't know, the 197 runs a fully variable inlet cam. This is something that hasn't been seen or done in a 172. This is where Sean @ ktec came to the rescue. He sent Scoff an aspect file for the gen90 for the vvc to be activated within the ecu and allow him to dial it in to suit the engines requirements. I have nothing but positive words to say about Sean - the guys a legend and has ALWAYS been on hand to answer any queries/questions I've had regarding the gen90. Thanks Sean your help has been invaluable!

Saturday afternoon arrived as did another email from Scoff with another update - a new date for mapping was set. I set off on Sunday afternoon up to Scoffs to drop the oil so it could be given a good hiding on a drop of the good stuff. Time to put it in the rollers and strap it down.
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With it being a vvc engine you have to start at the very top of the rpm range and find the optimum position for the cam advance, so basically, it got the s**t knocked out of it pretty much from the get go. I only found this out when Scoff told me how it was going to happen! Lol!

That's where I'm going to leave it for now.

More to come. :cool:
 
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