New project. Megane engined RS200 road car.

Russ Rallye · Oct 2, 2016

Had this for a week or so and outlined my plans for it in my Racecar thread but thought I'd best start a new thread.

Looked around at a few cars before this, R26 Meganes and 197 Cups mainly after being let down on an E46 Alpina and looking at a few tatty E39 M5's I went off them again. I'm still on the look out for another E36 Evo M3 coupe as a 'keeper' but atm I've no road car of my own, just x2 vans and the occasional loan of the Mrs' 3series Touring.
Anyway, seen this and it's 'my' perfect spec. Very early 200 on '09 plate. Glacier white FF with Cup pack, cup spoiler, Speedlines and Recaros. Only done 59k with history.

Gearbox has the usual crunch into 3rd and its due a cambelt so thought I'd just pull it all out and do the now popular megane conversion!

Before all that though, had to get it home and knock the 'ugly' off it.

Roof was wrapped black so that was removed along with the dealer stickers and various cliosport urls and some renaultsport logos on the lower quarters. Goes without saying that the wind deflectors were skipped too, never understood why everyone fits them!

Looking a lot better already. Have s few bits I want to sort, steering wheel needs a retrim and all the interior bulbs are green for some reason! No I don't know why either! Front Pirelli P-Zeros are nearly on the markers and the previous owner has put 2 new budget tyres on the back, some absolute Chinese garbage, I don't understand the logic of having an awesome handling hot hatch and putting £30 ditch finders on it! 4 new uniroyal rainsport 3's are on order. One of the wheels has a few marks on it so might have all four redone gloss black to match the front and rear bumpers and mirrors as the satin black looks a bit strange against all the gloss.

Mechanically it'll get the brakes overhauled with decent pads, fluid and hoses and I'll
Probably just put a set of springs on it to bring the ride height down a touch.
More info on the engine shortly.
Russ

imprezaworks · Oct 2, 2016

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mossyv6 · Oct 2, 2016

Watching this as Meg'in my 200 is on my to do list.

T.Trophy · Oct 2, 2016

I keep looking at doing a similar project. I was going to drop a 250 engine in my r26 but one of my mates made an offer on my Meg so I'm sitting on quite a few parts.....

OE 250 turbo
Hybrid TD04HL 20t
SMF fly wheel
Custom 6 puk friction plate
R26R pressure plate
R26 drive shafts
250 engine with forged rods
Inlet manifold modified to run a r26 TB and do away with the breather solenoid.
Miltek de cat
Brand new Meg 250 calipers
90mm Airtec cooler
Plus smaller parts

All in, I'm missing a set of injectors and an ECU solution oh yeah and a Clio 200

Russ Rallye · Oct 2, 2016

T.Trophy said:
I keep looking at doing a similar project. I was going to drop a 250 engine in my r26 but one of my mates made an offer on my Meg so I'm sitting on quite a few parts.....

OE 250 turbo
Hybrid TD04HL 20t
SMF fly wheel
Custom 6 puk friction plate
R26R pressure plate
R26 drive shafts
250 engine with forged rods
Inlet manifold modified to run a r26 TB and do away with the breather solenoid.
Miltek de cat
Brand new Meg 250 calipers
90mm Airtec cooler
Plus smaller parts

All in, I'm missing a set of injectors and an ECU solution oh yeah and a Clio 200

Lol that's a nice pile of parts to have sitting around. Sell Me the 250 turbo!
Russ

Russ Rallye · Oct 2, 2016

Been and picked an engine up today from a ph2 225 cup. A guy on meganesport's own car that he smashed.

Got most of the bits I wanted with it, loom and ecu, some coolant and boost pipes and both manifolds. Even got all the history from the donor car

Obviously I'll give it a decent check over and do the usual cam belt change, new plugs, coils and arp rod bolts. New sump gasket and anything else it needs.
Spec will be fairly simple with standard internals for now, Megane 250 turbo, 630cc injectors, decent cooler and 3" down pipe and exhaust. Should be happy with 300bhp for now.

Put it on the stand already and pulled a few bits off. It's pretty grubby and needs a good clean but I'll sort that.
Russ

matthewson · Oct 2, 2016

Looks a great base, will keep my eyes on this as I'm looking to do the same to my 197!

T.Trophy · Oct 3, 2016

Russ Rallye said:
Lol that's a nice pile of parts to have sitting around. Sell Me the 250 turbo!
Russ

It's at my mates at the moment, but I'll get it back this week. Could probably meet you at Hexham that way you could fully inspect it.

Advikaz · Oct 3, 2016

Sweet project

Darryl_1983 · Oct 3, 2016

Would love to have something like this.

I wouldn't have opted for RS3's though, they're not great on a standard car. With 300 bhp and a better selection of rubber, i'd have probably been looking at PS4's or similar.

Russ Rallye · Oct 3, 2016

Darryl_1983 said:
Would love to have something like this.

I wouldn't have opted for RS3's though, they're not great on a standard car. With 300 bhp and a better selection of rubber, i'd have probably been looking at PS4's or similar.

The rainsports will be perfect for all weather road use mate, will probably have another set of wheels for the odd trackday.
Russ

Darryl_1983 · Oct 3, 2016

Russ Rallye said:
The rainsports will be perfect for all weather road use mate, will probably have another set of wheels for the odd trackday.
Russ

Fair enough, I just don't like them to be honest. Had them in the past and they're perfectly fine in the wet/damp. Just too soft in the dry if you want to push a little, even in XL. I bought a set of alloys recently with them fitted and the car became a little unsettled/unstable whereas before it was planted.

Russ Rallye · Oct 21, 2016

Mostly parts updates and engine stripping this week. My tyres turned up, still need to strip and powdercoat the wheels but tyres are ready to go.

Ordered a load of service parts for the megane engine too.

NGK-R plugs, genuine cambelt kit inc water pump and genuine aux kit. New sump gasket too as I've got ARP con rod bolts to fit.

Picked up an RS250 turbo from @T.Trophy on here cheers Steve.

Need to have a trip to Renault for some water/oil fittings for the turbo + some studs, nuts and bolts. Need an inlet and exhaust manifold gasket too.

Also picked up a few more bits necessary for the conversion.

Forge intercooler, 630cc injectors and fuel rail and some Goodridge brake hoses.

Scorpion 3" decat downpipe is here as well. Still need some heat wrap for it.

Had a change of plan regarding the gearbox too. I've bought an R26 'box now so won't be using the Clio 'box. Picking it up tomorrow. Have ordered a load of bits in preparation. Lightweight single mass flywheel, genuine R26.r clutch kit, new slave cylinder and flywheel bolts. Still need a shifter/cables and a pair of shafts.
Not a lot more parts to collect then I'll actually start work on the car.
Russ

Russ Rallye · Oct 21, 2016

Stripped the motor down a bit more for a clean and to do all the service bits.
Both manifolds off.

Gave the inlet a scrub up as well.

Cambelt and pulleys off.

Water pump off, still got the dreaded gasket to remove!

Got the cams and cover off to have a look at the top end, all looks pretty clean and well Looked after. Lifters and rockers all ok.
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Need to give the cover a lift.
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Russ Rallye · Oct 22, 2016

Not sure what happened there ^^^

Rocker cover still needs a lick of the usual red paint before refitting and timing it all up.

We have progress anyway so I'm happy at the minute.
Russ

Russ Rallye · Oct 23, 2016

Picked the R26 gearbox up yesterday. Just need to give it a clean.

Stripped the engine a bit more so I can do the conrod bolts and check the bearings.

Windage tray and oil pump out, rockers and tappets out.

Need to give the sump a good clean in and out tomorrow. Already cleaned and degreased the block and it's come up really well without needing to paint it. Got the water pump gasket off easily too as they're not the paper style gasket as on the 1*2's they're a proper metal/rubber gasket. Be nice to start building it back up tomorrow, arp bolts in, sump back on, water pump in etc.
Russ

Russ Rallye · Oct 27, 2016

Got some of it built back up. Arp 'rod bolts in.

Gave the sump a good clean and refitted it with a new gasket.

Got the water pump fitted and put the manifolds back on.

Chucked a few other bits back on, dip stick and water pump outlet pipe. Put the cambelt roller and tensioner and belt on loosely but the timing tools are at the workshop so won't get it timed up until the weekend probably.

No rush as I've only just painted the rocker cover and breather plate tonight anyway.

Waiting on a load parts coming into Renault tomorrow hopefully, brand new R26 driveshafts, some turbo gaskets and fittings. Turbo Stud and nuts etc. My lightweight single mass flywheel is here along with genuine R26.r clutch kit, new csc and flywheel bolts. Waiting on my R26 gear shifter and cables to turn up along with the boost control valve and a few sensors I'm missing. More updates over the weekend hopefully.
Russ

dynodan · Oct 28, 2016

What management are you going to run? Should be a beast when it's done!

Russ Rallye · Oct 28, 2016

dynodan said:
What management are you going to run? Should be a beast when it's done!

Just the standard Megane ecu, albeit remapped, just needs unlocked for the the Clio immobiliser and some slight wiring alterations then I'll have full factory functionality.
Russ

green · Oct 28, 2016

Awesome project:up::up: wish I had the know how. Good luck with it.

sonny172cup · Oct 28, 2016

Looking good mate.

So, stupid question time, do these not run dephasers then?

Russ Rallye · Oct 28, 2016

sonny172cup said:
Looking good mate.

So, stupid question time, do these not run dephasers then?

Cheers mate, the meganes don't no. The RS250's do though FYI.
Russ

Russ Rallye · Oct 30, 2016

Few more bits collected, springs have arrived after being on order for 3 weeks.

Unpacked the clutch and flywheel for a few pictures.

Picked up the bits on order from Renault. A load of nuts bolts and gaskets mainly along with a pair of megane driveshafts.

It meant I could bolt the turbo on properly with the new studs and nuts fitted + new gaskets.

Got my heat wrap to do the down pipe however I never ordered enough! Still to finish once it turns up so just hanging in place for now.

You'll Notice the cam pullies are on which means it's all back together and timed up.

I'm about at the point where I need bits off the Clio to progress, engine mount bracket, coils, gearbox bolts etc so need to pull the engine out. Will see how we get on for time this week.
Russ

elcie · Oct 31, 2016

Very nice proper tidy job on the engine getting it ready, look forward to seeing it going in

Ph1 Tom · Oct 31, 2016

Good progress! I'm breaking my Megane so may have a few bits you might want. The ecu is mapped on a hybrid turbo and 630cc injectors.

Russ Rallye · Nov 1, 2016

Ph1 Tom said:
Good progress! I'm breaking my Megane so may have a few bits you might want. The ecu is mapped on a hybrid turbo and 630cc injectors.

Thanks mate but already have a similar setup albeit with Rs250 turbo, 630cc injectors and ecu is mapped for a similar spec will just need a tweak hopefully.
Russ

mintno1 · Nov 1, 2016

Looks great already, can't wait to see it in the car!

Russ Rallye · Nov 3, 2016

If I get a chance this weekend I'm going to start stripping the engine etc out of the 200 as I am really stuck now.

Chucked the loom and coolant pipes on the engine to see what's what. Got the sensors plugged in that I have. Short of a couple still.

Got the new Bosch lambda fitted, pic shows my new short shift linkage from engine dynamics too.

Also got the downpipe re-wrapped and bolted on.

Samco inlet turned up so just chucked it on along with the boost control valve and piping. It'll probably need cut shorter once in the car anyway.

Last of all, put the new concentric slave cylinder on the gearbox. Have the quick shift linkage to fit too that I'll sort tomorrow hopefully.
Russ

Jamie86 · Nov 4, 2016

Looking good Russ

I take it that the plastic cable ties are just temporary

Russ Rallye · Nov 4, 2016

Jamie86 said:
Looking good Russ :smile:
I take it that the plastic cable ties are just temporary

I was waiting for someone to notice! Thought I had some stainless ones at work but I've had the stores upside down and can't find any! Trying to avoid buying some as they're a rip off!
Russ

PAUL JA · Nov 4, 2016

I hate the slave cylinder design i.e. a join in the plastic pipe and no retention of the connection where it passes through the bellhousing.
We had a new one fail at Oulton Park (pishing fluid out of the joint) on the Friday before Saturday race day - It was a busy Friday night at Brosport (thank you Dave Hudson)!
I believe LUK now do one thats a one piece metal pipe with a bellhousing retaing collar (well I'm sure I've seen one)

Martin. · Nov 4, 2016

Looking sweet. Keep us updated with progress. Subscribed with great interest!

Russ Rallye · Nov 4, 2016

PAUL JA said:
I hate the slave cylinder design i.e. a join in the plastic pipe and no retention of the connection where it passes through the bellhousing.
We had a new one fail at Oulton Park (pishing fluid out of the joint) on the Friday before Saturday race day - It was a busy Friday night at Brosport (thank you Dave Hudson)!
I believe LUK now do one thats a one piece metal pipe with a bellhousing retaing collar (well I'm sure I've seen one)

We had the same thing in one of the race cars but reckoned someone was a bit rough putting it back together after a clutch/gearbox change.
Russ

dynodan · Nov 4, 2016

Use lockwire to hold the heat wrap in place - it's cheap and once you've got a reel of it you'll find a million uses for it

Advikaz · Nov 4, 2016

Great work so far mate

JamesBryan · Nov 4, 2016

Those tie wraps are about £7 for 4 at Demon Tweeks.

Russ Rallye · Nov 5, 2016

Started stripping the Clio last night. Just got the battery and air box out really.

Got the ecu out as well and it's currently boxed up along with the megane ecu ready to go and be unlocked.

Couldn't help pinching bits as I went. Swapped the coil packs over.

Sorted some breather/vac pipes out on the new engine too.

Been busy today and have to work in the morning but hopefully will have some time to pull the front end off the Clio tomorrow and get it ready to pull the ending out.
Russ

Jamie86 · Nov 6, 2016

Russ Rallye said:
I was waiting for someone to notice! Thought I had some stainless ones at work but I've had the stores upside down and can't find any! Trying to avoid buying some as they're a rip off!
Russ

Will normal metal cable ties you do up with the guns not work? If you have a gun I have loads I can send you a pack if you want..

chris_p · Nov 6, 2016

Subscribed! Looking great.

Russ Rallye · Nov 7, 2016

Jamie86 said:
Will normal metal cable ties you do up with the guns not work? If you have a gun I have loads I can send you a pack if you want..

Thanks Jamie, I'm sorted now. I hate those guns btw, got chucked in the bin a long time ago!
Russ

New project. Megane engined RS200 road car.

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