Belt and dephaser change- what other mods at the same time?

chris blue

ClioSport Area Rep

  172 Ph1 2001

• Aug 2, 2017

• #1

My belts are due next year, so probably go the whole hog on my year 2000 phase 1 (88kmiles) and get the dephaser n water pump done too
So what performance mods can you do, which will save a tidy sum , when done at the same time?
I am more of a tinkerer than an all out, head on dismantle and reassemble engines, so these would be done at a mechanics with Clio experience

 

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hipwell

  monaco 172

• Aug 2, 2017

• #2

Cams and a remap

 

JamesBryan

ClioSport Club Member

  OG Megane 265

• Aug 2, 2017

• #3

Cams.

 

Budgie

  330i. E30 Touring.

• Aug 2, 2017

• #4

Don't bother IMO. The money you spend isn't worth it.

 

H

hipwell

  monaco 172

• Aug 2, 2017

• #5

Budgie said:

Don't bother IMO. The money you spend isn't worth it.

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I thought that but the figures bloke has been posting with 197 cams seems like a great upgrade for the money

 

Speedy300

ClioSport Club Member

  M140i

• Aug 2, 2017

• #6

I am planning to get my cambelt / dephaser replaced early next year and at the same time looking to get cams fitted with a tailored remap on top.

I expect I will use Engine Dynamics in Essex for the work.

 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member

  Z4M

• Aug 2, 2017

• #7

197 cams, if anything.

 

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bloke

  dan's cast offs.

• Aug 2, 2017

• #8

matched inlets make a bit of a difference.

 

chris blue

ClioSport Area Rep

  172 Ph1 2001

• Aug 2, 2017

• #9

so what additional costs we looking at for 197 Cams then?
Can understand what Budgie says tho- only bought the car for little money.

 

H

hipwell

  monaco 172

• Aug 2, 2017

• #10

Around 250 for mapping and probably the same again for the 197 cams

 

chris blue

ClioSport Area Rep

  172 Ph1 2001

• Aug 2, 2017

• #11

might just plonk for the Fastchip tune for the moment then

 

chris blue

ClioSport Area Rep

  172 Ph1 2001

• Aug 3, 2017

• #12

any idea what 197 cams would do for a standard 172 phase 1 engine?
How much labour involved and are they tricky to fit when sorting the belts at same time?

 

H

hipwell

  monaco 172

• Aug 4, 2017

• #13

Speak to bloke about it, but I think most people would fit cams at the same time as the belts for very little extra.
197 cams seem to be getting high 180s with very little mods.

Could be blokes super duper secret timing which helps out though

 

chris blue

ClioSport Area Rep

  172 Ph1 2001

• Aug 4, 2017

• #14

anyone know where to get hold of specific 197 cam timing tools- how much ish?

 

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bloke

  dan's cast offs.

• Aug 4, 2017

• #15

There isn't one, got to make it yourself.

 

R3k1355

Absolute wetter.

ClioSport Club Member

• Aug 4, 2017

• #16

If you're running a Ph.1 engine that matched inlets or at least an RS Stamped lower inlet will give you some gains over the more restrictive non-RS stamped lower inlet.

 

chris blue

ClioSport Area Rep

  172 Ph1 2001

• Aug 4, 2017

• #17

bloke said:

There isn't one, got to make it yourself.

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OOooo. Do I have to tell Mike at Rentech that? Or can you (Pretty please)

 

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bloke

  dan's cast offs.

• Aug 4, 2017

• #18

am sure he will know the score.

 

chris blue

ClioSport Area Rep

  172 Ph1 2001

• Aug 4, 2017

• #19

bloke said:

am sure he will know the score.

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not what he said to me in a PM

 

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bloke

  dan's cast offs.

• Aug 4, 2017

• #20

he doesn't know the timing set up? would of thought he'd know the score.