Second car pointers/advice

JKeillor94 · Aug 7, 2017

Okay then, I'm looking to get a second car pretty soon within the next 6 months or so.
So far, I'm looking at 3 cars which perform much better than the 1.2 Clio I currently have.

The cars in question;

2000-2005 Honda Civic 1.6

2007-2014 Renault Twingo 1.2

2010-2015 Honda CRZ 1.5

Anybody have any guidance (particularly for the twingo) as to what the common faults are?

Cheers in advance!

imprezaworks · Aug 7, 2017

Strange choice imo.

What do you want the car for? Do you need five doors?

Herr Flick · Aug 7, 2017

Is the criteria to just own a really shitty car?

imprezaworks · Aug 7, 2017

Out of the three above, the twingo mate.

Random choice of three cars though lol

Djw John · Aug 7, 2017

Do you mean second as in your next car or a second car to run alongside your current one?

Daniel · Aug 7, 2017

If I had the choice of those three cars or thrush....

Pass me the Canasten!

Matt W · Aug 8, 2017

CRZ all the way. Meant to be pretty good!

DrR · Aug 8, 2017

I liked my Twingo 1.2, it was slow though!

JKeillor94 · Aug 8, 2017

imprezaworks said:
Strange choice imo.

What do you want the car for? Do you need five doors?

I just need something small and better on fuel as a run about back and forth from work until I can afford something decent

Djw John said:
Do you mean second as in your next car or a second car to run alongside your current one?

I mean for my next car, I want to get rid of the Clio

-I'm not looking for a decent car to own right now, just something that's better on fuel, I'm not giving too much of a sh!t of the car looks good, if it's fast etc... that's not the goal in life right now haha!
Imo, these three look pretty decent anyway, as well as being way better for fuel consumption!

I'm also not asking what car I should get out of the three either, these are just the three I'm looking at to get one eventually.

imprezaworks · Aug 8, 2017

Sounds to me it's M3 time?

Twingo out of the above

JKeillor94 · Aug 8, 2017

imprezaworks said:
Sounds to me it's M3 time?

Twingo out of the above

I don't want another Clio though haha!
Any hints on the common faults with these?

DrR · Aug 8, 2017

If you have a mk2 clio now, a Twingo is pretty much same car?

Here is my Twingo MPG over 4200 miles if you're interested.

JKeillor94 · Aug 8, 2017

DrR said:
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If you have a mk2 clio now, a Twingo is pretty much same car?

Here is my Twingo MPG over 4200 miles if you're interested.

I get about 30-34 mpg! This is what I'm saying, the cars I'm looking at are better for fuel haha.
Also, just out of curiosity, what app is that?!

DrR · Aug 8, 2017

It's called Road Trip, I've used it for years, awesome for keeping track of mpg.

dann2707 · Aug 8, 2017

You're replacing it with a car that will be just as bad on fuel.

Lupo sdi for the win. I got 73mpg the other day and it runs on straight veg oil at £16 for 20L

Christopher · Aug 8, 2017

CRZs are actually awesome. Pricey though, but they do return 40-50mpg.
Such a random selection of cars, I can't offer advice because they're so different tbh.

JKeillor94 · Aug 8, 2017

Christopher said:
CRZs are actually awesome. Pricey though, but they do return 40-50mpg.
Such a random selection of cars, I can't offer advice because they're so different tbh.

Not looking for comparison advice between the 3 of them to see what's the best car out of the 3. Random yes maybe, but they're so much better than what I already have.

Christopher · Aug 8, 2017

JKeillor94 said:
Not looking for comparison advice between the 3 of them to see what's the best car out of the 3. Random yes maybe, but they're so much better than what I already have.

The best for what purpose though? That's my point.
The best for delivering takeaway and ignoring the Highway Code - Civic
The best for being a canvas to add cringeworthy stickers to and open up a world of sh*t French car Facebook groups - Twingo
The best for being expensive and never equaling out the initial premium through reduced fuel bills - CRZ

JKeillor94 · Aug 8, 2017

Christopher said:
The best for what purpose though? That's my point.
The best for delivering takeaway and ignoring the Highway Code - Civic
The best for being a canvas to add cringeworthy stickers to and open up a world of sh*t French car Facebook groups - Twingo
The best for being expensive and never equaling out the initial premium through reduced fuel bills - CRZ

Eugh... another typical stereotype...

I know that Civics are pretty reliable as far as the engine goes, has better mpg and is pretty cheap to run & maintain.

Twingo has far better mpg and is cheap enough to maintain and run, parts around my area are pretty easy to get as well.

CRZ has decent mpg, though it's a hybrid and parts are not so cheap

-basically I'm swaying between the Civic and Twingo, bearing in mind it's just a daily that I'll be needing for the next 2-3 years or so. I don't do a tonne of driving, just back and forth from work and to my girlfriends, other than that I don't drive anywhere else, every week I do somewhere between 250-350 miles

Christopher · Aug 8, 2017

Twingo then.
I had the 133 years ago when they were new and it was great. Peanuts to run too since they're basically a Mk2 Clio underneath.

Smiffyboy1990 · Aug 8, 2017

I'd just keep the Clio, false economy to spend say 5k on a CR-Z to save a little bit on Fuel.

I'd keep that money until you can afford something you really want.

Ian_182 · Aug 8, 2017

Out of those i'd pick the CRZ just because it looks the best of that bunch.
Secondly when you sell in a few years time it will hold some value as we head into the hybrid car explosion.

Daniel · Aug 8, 2017

Spending thousands of pounds to gain 10mpg...

Only on CS.

Christopher · Aug 8, 2017

Daniel said:
Spending thousands of pounds to gain 10mpg...

Only on CS.

Shhhh. At least let him buy it before we point out how silly it is.

TheEvilGiraffe · Aug 8, 2017

Buy a £500 mk2 dCi 100.

It will do 70mpg and feel much faster than your 1.2 as it has as much torque as a 172.

Spending more than £500 to save money is a ridiculous idea.

jamesycc · Aug 8, 2017

What he said, ^

They run on fresh air, cheap to tax, cheap to run.

JKeillor94 · Aug 8, 2017

It's not just a question of spending to save fuel, it's reliability as well on top of that for the next few years. The clio is just scrap at this point

Christopher · Aug 8, 2017

JKeillor94 said:
It's not just a question of spending to save fuel, it's reliability as well on top of that for the next few years. The clio is just scrap at this point

What's wrong with it? You can fix Mk2's for about £8 these days.

JKeillor94 · Aug 8, 2017

Christopher said:
What's wrong with it? You can fix Mk2's for about £8 these days.

Done a heap of work already to it but still needs sh!t sorted;
Tyres, bearings, springs, shocks, tranny mounts, handbrake cable, horn, steering alignment, rust on the bodywork.
I just cbf keeping it, been hitting the bank too much to sort it out so it needs to go once I've sorted the priority stuff.

brohoward71 · Aug 8, 2017

Shouldnt you have a budget. Then a set of requirments for car ie no of doors , seats , hatch, saloon etc Then a realistic target mpg then see what fits. It seems a really random selection of vehicles you have posted.

Goodj · Aug 8, 2017

I'd take the Honda, out of all of those options.

JKeillor94 · Aug 8, 2017

brohoward71 said:
Shouldnt you have a budget. Then a set of requirments for car ie no of doors , seats , hatch, saloon etc Then a realistic target mpg then see what fits. It seems a really random selection of vehicles you have posted.

Reliability and cost to run is all I'm looking at right now buddy.

Goodj · Aug 8, 2017

JKeillor94 said:
Reliability and cost to run is all I'm looking at right now buddy.

Fabia 1.9 SDI then.

:expressionless:

leedsboy · Aug 8, 2017

JKeillor94 said:
Done a heap of work already to it but still needs sh!t sorted;
Tyres, bearings, springs, shocks, tranny mounts, handbrake cable, horn, steering alignment, rust on the bodywork.
I just cbf keeping it, been hitting the bank too much to sort it out so it needs to go once I've sorted the priority stuff.

You seem like a right nice guy so I don't want to shoot you down in flames but all these things as consumables which will need doing on every car sooner or later.

Out of the list, I'd go for the Honda, purely because I think they look pretty cool and it'd be newer so you would expect less problems and less consumable parts that would need changing.

If you're wanting decent mpgzzzz, get a Clio DCI or Lupo SDI like dannnn479632493264236492364976324 or anything VAG with the 1.9tdi engine which seems to be pretty bullet proof.

Matt W · Aug 8, 2017

Goodj · Aug 8, 2017

Matt W said:
MX-5

30mpg all day every day
costs less than a button to fix
most fun that £1400 can buy (that you dont have to hand back after a day)

Steveball · Aug 10, 2017

I have a 61 plate golf that's done 160k, still returns over 50mpg and costs hardly anything to fix. Why if you are looking to save money are you considering petrols? Especially low powered engines which require the nuts squeezing to get them anywhere.

What's your yearly mileage?

JON FOZ · Aug 12, 2017

DrR said:
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If you have a mk2 clio now, a Twingo is pretty much same car?

Here is my Twingo MPG over 4200 miles if you're interested.

Are those trips mainly motorway trips or your general everyday pootling around ?

DrR · Aug 12, 2017

I very very rarely go on a motorway, mainly A/B road stuff. Likewise I hardly do any city driving.

Ian_182 · Aug 12, 2017

Steveball said:
I have a 61 plate golf that's done 160k, still returns over 50mpg and costs hardly anything to fix. Why if you are looking to save money are you considering petrols? Especially low powered engines which require the nuts squeezing to get them anywhere.

What's your yearly mileage?

I have a mk6 1.4 turbo on a 10 plate which returns 35mpg round town going to school. I couldn't justify the premium of a tdi or the potential horrendous engine repair bills if it were to go wrong just for an extra 15mpg.
I also do sod all miles which also helped when buying the petrol version.

DrR · Aug 12, 2017

ian 182 said:
I have a mk6 1.4 turbo on a 10 plate which returns 35mpg round town going to school. I couldn't justify the premium of a tdi or the potential horrendous engine repair bills if it were to go wrong just for an extra 15mpg.
I also do sod all miles which also helped when buying the petrol version.

I thought the 1.4turbo engine VW made was an awful avoid engine? Genuine question as my brother been looking but we avoided that engine?

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