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IMO just like the R27 epitomises the best Renault can get out of the modern RS Clio until the next derivative is released (as the Trophy did with the 182)the GP does the same for the charged Cooper S'. Add to that the fact that the GP WILL hold its value far better than the 200, better after...

Pure dogshite

Your pussy looks awesome in the snow!!!!

If she gets 40 out of her 182 imo she WILL get 35 or 36 out of a 197 if driving it on decent runs fairly economically. I averaged 28/29 mpg in mine (15 mile trip each way each day mostly m-way with very little traffic) but a couple of times on long A-road runs I got nearer 40mpg when I got...

GP for me all day.....Assuming you can live with 2 seats. I'd love to only have 2 seats as I hate giving people lifts!lol

It not bad mate, find it very smooth after a couple of RS'. Smooth power delivery and for the performance very good on running costs. Charged version is definately more fun and better sounding but overall I like it. I was merely stating what performance etc you can get for not much more...

Yeah I know you have 100... but you said "whatever the Clio had the IQ has!" My point was that the 197 is almost twice the power.. MINI is an 09, turbo engine.

I now have a MINI Cooper S which was only a couple of grand more... As for the Clio... does your IQ have circa 190 horsepower?? ;) Agree on build quality though..

I wouldn't know, I have never driven a 1.6 Clio. My mates grandad has an IQ, it looks really cute, never driven it but he says it goes well.

I paid 14.5k for my 197.. Brand new, xenons, climate, tints........

£13.5K for that??:eek: It looks really cute, you'll enjoy it!

Final straw for me was when ALL of the discs warped after only 20k miles onmy 197 and as some people on here will tell you I am not an erratic driver, I'm not hard on the brakes and I'd not tracked the car etc... The rears warped because the rear caliper was sticking a tiny bit - I did the...

I just found them totally obnoxious and very obstructive/unhelpful. Result for you though! Good letters/emails!!!

EPIC read!!!!!!! I feel your pain, this is exactly why my 197 went! I'm glad your persistence has paid off, I lost the will to live with RUK.

I'm keen as long as it is a good track. Whilton Mill in Daventry is top notch........

Bit harsh seeing as Ian started this thread which is crammed full of "adult" debate!lol. Admin can you not just sticky a thread called "Vee v Trophy - You Decide?"as every thread seems to end up with a very similar theme... ;)

Depends how hard you drive it after the light comes on!lol

Flicking between JTMD and Bad Boy's 2. Quiet on here without Alan the Jew ain't it? I bet his R would have given alot of Clio's a good run on a track.

I have been round the Ring hundreds of times on GT4 and Forza and I can catagorically say that my Vee was the quickest of all my RS' although it did take a fair bit of taming! Evening Ali. ;) ;) ;)

Been there, done that....... First car back in Y2K was an L Reg 1.1 Metro Quest. Christ, what a machine!lol! Spent a FORTUNE ;) on it then sold it for half the price I bought it a year later. You should have seen the beast, 5 door, awesome 13" trims, the phrase "rolling deep" springs to mind...

That is a sh1t review. I've not driven one, the interior sucks, supposed to be a nightmare for uncapable drivers in some conditions. HOWEVER- I would still have one, they look the nuts!!

When I had mine the cold running was a joke (mind you my 197 wasn't much better). Had an oil leak which took Reno several visits to diagnose (not the fact that they could not diagnose but more the fact that they were so bloody rude that p1ssed me off). Seating position was uncomfortable but...

Don't do it!!!!!!!LOL. Snick- De-locking is the way forward! At least that way they will only smash yout windies in!!!ha

I had my N97 for two weeks, swapped it for an N85 plus 160 notes... I really liked it but it was just too big and I hated the touch screen.....

I loved my Clio's too. Renault UK left A LOT to be desired but that is another story!lol I'll get some pics up ASAP!

Loving your new ride son, mine is good fun but yours is a different animal. As said above it is different strokes for different folks but after 2 RS' I was ready for a change myself.

Saturday 6th: Flashed you on South Bank Rd around 1300 and then saw you on Commercial Street in the evening

That is Dave B, nice looking car that...

Knows, he taught me everything I know... Think it is called "grooming" in some parts...

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