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I was wondering how it changed toe on the rear also. I can understand it on the front when you have the camber change fighting against the track rods etc but my (very) small brain cant work it out for the rear!

Turns out, this 197 could actually have been a 200...

Top marks for Frogjam! Ordered yesterday and they are here now, great price too!

Yes, I was just looking at this, they are similarly priced to the CL's. May well give them a shot unless the DS1.11's can be had cheaper than I have found.

Where have you found this? I found the RC6's for £200 per set. I can only find the 1.11's at £300 and they dont seem to be in stock anywhere.

Totally get the added value of the DS1.11's and I will go that way in the future but they just aren't in my budget right now.

OK, it doesn't seem that the CL's are worth the extra with the shorter life time and wet issues. The DS1.11 pads are on my list but they are a bit pricey for me right now, I have read very good things about them though.

This is good info. So one of my concerns was how badly they would wear. I'm getting around 3 track days to a front set of the PBS's but that's only at Blyton Park. Did you have any issues with wet track days with the CL's? I see that Kam mention that they need extra mainantence after getting wet.

Does anyone have any track experience with both types of pad? So far, I have been using the ProRace pad's but I dont think the set that I have now will last a full day at Cadwell. Are the RC6's a worth while upgrade? How long do they last by comparison?

Why do you say the Evol ones are junk? Did you hear of any issues with them?

Mines not out too often but I am in that area! Was it you in the 197?

Just wondered if it's anyone here. 6pm leaving Randall Park Way.

The Evol ones are rubber but they say there are 2 different versions (road and Track).

I have the Evol mounts. As above, they are easy enough to fit and the quality seems good but in my experience they add a lot of vibration and noise. I do have the stiffer version though and mine is basically track only at this stage. It was certainly less harsh with the OEM Mounts with insert.

I used Carbon Collective's Platinum Wheels ceramic on a set of new 2118's that are used for track only. It was easy enough to apply and I've done 3 or 4 track days at Blyton on them and the brake dust comes off easily. Overall its been on them for 7 months and is still going strong.

Im based in Retford making Blyton my local track. I did 4 or 5 days at Blyton this year but im planning to do Cadwell and Donnington next year.

They are Mirco RST's and are slightly wider than most bucket seats to accommodate the fatter arsed individual!

This is my interpretation.

Most commonly the gearbox sensor but I had the same issue and it turned to be the wiring/plug going into the sensor. You can get replacement plugs on ebay.

Is the backbox or the pipe that goes over the rear axle catching on the body work, or close enough to catch it when the engine moves?

Hi All, My steering rack was leaking fluid after a day at Blyton. I bought these seals from Ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273205594010 however now the rack is apart I cant see that any of these fit on the piston part of the rack. Does anyone know which seals are correct and where they can...

If its this seller...

Most Cups are Mondial Blue with a rare few being in Silver. The seats will only be basic and the trims internally will be Mondial Blue, including the clock surround. I cant imagine many fakes being around with the unique colour.

I run 32 front / 30 rear on my Cup with no issues, tyres are 195/45 Conti Sport 3's. Used the same with my previous AD08R tyres in 205/45 with no issues either.

I don't think this would work because when you fit a bucket seat the lowered subframe bolts onto the car through the holes that the standard seat bolts through. Then the side mounts go in the lowered part of the sub frame.

I have some kind of solid dogbone mount, not sure if it's Evol or not, certainly looks the same though. That was already on the car when I bought it. Because of the dogbone mount there was a lot of vibration already, the Evol race mounts added some more but not much in the scale of things...

I've had the Evol Race mounts on my 172 for a few months now, I think they were a great upgrade.

Here's my Cup.

Just for info, I was offered £600 earlier this week from a guy recommended by @Romanian Tyre Fitter

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