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Burpspeed Version 2: Race Car Build



  172 Race Car
This was all written at the time it happened and posted elsewhere.


As most of you will know 2 years ago I bought a Phase 1 from Daniel to use as a track day car. It did turn into a bit of a major project/obsession and as been a lot of fun.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=296190

Its not that I’m getting bored with track days but I need the thrill of competition. Tony has been doing the track days with me for the last few years, as you know he used to race Clio’s in Hungary. He also wanted to do something more.


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Us at Bedford on a track day



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So throughout 2009 id been saying we were going to go hillclimbing in the car in 2010. I’ve been interested in it for about 10 years and always fancied a go. But when we looked into the cost verses the time actually driving, it didn’t seem to be good value for money. That and an airfield sprint day I did back at the beginning of August kind of made up my mind that it wasn’t for me. Waiting around for 2 hours to drive for 90seconds. Obviously it’s a completely different discipline from track driving but I’ve enjoyed circuits so much that’s where we belong. Were not ruling out doing some hill climbs but its not what we are focussing on.

So as you have probably guessed from the thread title we are going to RACE! :race:

Loads of research was done into a series that would suit us and finally settled on the ‘Tin Tops’ series run by the Classic sports car club. The races are 40mins long with a pit stop for driver change. Meaning we can split the costs involved. We may also be taking it in turns to do a 20min, single driver, multiclass race at the end of each race meeting at the same circuit.

So with that decided we needed to race prep the car. A cage was needed as well as other safety equipment.
We started looking around for cages and then I spotted a caged phase 1 shell for sale on here (You all know who’s it was)

I jokingly sent Tony a message suggesting we should buy it and before I knew it we were in his works Shogun travelling to Warrington to pick it up.


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We decided that it was better to build a race car from this using my 172 track car as a donor, instead of sticking a cage in mine. (My wife disagrees)



This meant I could do what I’ve always wanted. Build a Track/Race car from an almost bare shell! Effectively reshelling a track car that was already very well sorted and can lap very quickly. This means we can get even more weight off it, although we may struggle to get it anywhere near the weight of the current car (879kgs) due to the climbing frame inside it.. and make everything look nice. Cant wait!



20th August 2009
- Collecting the Shell

We picked up the new shell today. It was down the drive with only the rear axle and sub frame on it. Getting it out, onto the road and onto the trailer was a 2 hour ordeal involving trolley jacks, axle stands and a lot of effort.


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And we were off.

By the time we got back it was almost the next day so we left it on the trailer till it was daylight.


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21st August 2009 - Unloading

With the help of a pallet truck and some of Tony’s work mates, we got it off the trailer and onto the driveway where it will live for the next few months.


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The shell has an OMP cage fitted, we need to add a few more bars to it and redo some of the welding to make it safer/acceptable to the scrutineers. Ideally we would of liked the cage to go as close to the A pillar as possible (I hate dash dodgers) But this is a budget build so we cant have it all. The main thing was to get the car as neat, safe and reliable as possible for a reasonable price to get us on the track.


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So with the shell being far from bare we set about removing everything. There was no point in doing a full rebuild if we were not going to do it properly.


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Dash wiring loom (You would be amazed at how heavy this is!)


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So the interior is stripped of everything next time we will tackle the outside and engine bay.



25th August 2009 - Subframe

Tony took off the sub frame today and gave it a dam good clean with a jet wash. It will be stripped down and painted before being built back up with everything checked or replaced as necessary.




27th August 2009 - Engine Bay

This is how the car looked at lunchtime today.


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The rest of the bolt on parts needed to be removed from the car. Starting in the engine bay we took off the wiring loom, front wings, lights, wiper linkage and brake servo/master cylinder. Leaving the front end back to the bare bones…………


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A few other little bits and pieces were removed, gear linkage, heat shielding etc. Then we moved on to the back of the car to get the axle out. The captive bolts on the off side just wouldn’t play the game so we had to use mole grips to hold them still. The nearside came off easily.


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The shell was pretty bare by now with just a few clips and things left on it. The only major thing remaining was the fuel tank. Again the captive nuts either stayed put and were undone easy or caused a bit of a headache.


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So there it is, ready for the next step. We are going to weld some extra door bars into it and fit a harness bar across the back roll hoop.


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We filled the 'Gator' with parts to put into storage ready for the rebuild process.


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28th August 2009 - Suspension Prep


Tony has been busy prepping some of the suspension components. They have all been jet washed, rubbed down and given a coat of hamerite. We decided against having them sandblasted/acid dipped as its not a show car and it doesnt justify the expense.


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2nd September 2009 - Real Work Begins


Today, it was obvious the weather was going to be against us. Rain and more rain. Good job we managed to get the car into the workshop. Not easy with out any suspension on the car.

We tried a little experiment…………….


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Didn’t really work that well. So we went to plan B.

On the front, one of our chaps made up a really neat tow hitch.


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It bolts to the front cross member and with some strapping is very secure.


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This made the shell into a trailer so we could move it about with the ‘Gator’. Only problem was the rear end. Just to get it into the workshop this time, we used a pallet and truck. Not ideal and was a little bit of headache. Did the job but a more permanent solution was needed.


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So with the shell indoors, just before the rain came, we got it on the ramp to make a start on some real jobs.



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Sideways Danny (aka. the homeless looking one) had come over with his welder and set about improving the roll cage. We wanted some more door bars added to increase the side impact protection. Starting on the nearside, everything was carefully measured and cut to size from some new, high quality roll cage tubing.




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The same was then done to the off side door bar.



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We are very pleased with how they have turned out. There is quite a bit left to do on the cage, could of quite happily carried on into the small hours but we all have work tomorrow.

While Danny was busy welding we built the back axle up quickly. Its not permanent as we still have work to do. We plan to replace the bushes etc. But what it does do is remove the need for the pallets and make the shell into proper, towable trailer. We can now move it into the workshop every time we need to work on it. As we don’t have any shocks we used some wire just as a tether to stop the springs falling out every time we jack the car up.



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The whole front end was inspected for rust. There was quite a few areas of surface rust bubbling up the paint. Every thing was wire brushed to remove the loose stuff and given a coat or red oxide.



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Quite a bit done today then. Made it so much easier for us to progress further on from this point. Now all that was left was to tow it back out of the workshop so some proper work can get done tomorrow.



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  172 Race Car
4th September 2009 - Engine Bay Paint

The front end got a few coats of primer and silver paint today. We want the engine bay to look super neat and tidy. All under the arches too.



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5th September 2009 - New Paint


We want the car to stand out, plain old silver is just boring. Some parts of the car are going to be painted a contrasting colour. We had discussed red, green, yellow and settled on orange. THE brightest orange we could find. The door mirror caps and door strips were given a blow over with white primer and then the colour. Ahh, my eyes!



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Not sure what else will be done like this as yet. We need to have a think………….



6th September 2009 - Bulkhead Hammer Work


Things are moving on, the bulkhead area has been modified to enable the fitment of the blower fan and wiper linkage from the track car. Its all been tried and tested on that car and works very well so will keep the same ideas on the race car.

Bulkhead was ‘reprofiled’ with a large hammer to give more clearance for the blower. (A modified Ford Escort unit)


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The wiper linkage mounting points were cut away to leave just the left hand mounting. Doing this a second time meant a much neater job could be made and the bulkhead was left untouched. All ready for the single wiper linkage (Citroen AX)


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A more bits have been removed from the inside of the shell. A very large spot welded plate in the drivers foot well. In the track car this would annoy me as id catch my foot on it whilst moving from throttle to brake.



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7th September 2009 - Spare Engine

Today we picked up a spare engine and gearbox. They came from a 172 cup. The engine is probably going to be rebuilt. We wont be having anything fancy done, just a refresh, the car it came out of had done 82k before it tried to mate with a lorry and ended up in a early grave. We won’t be using this engine at first, we intend to use the donkey from the track car to start with. Its done 108k but still going strong, makes good power (185bhp) and has been well looked after. If it goes pop we will have this one as a backup. Not sure what we are doing with the gearbox yet, we have 3 of them now. Apparently the cup gearbox has different ratios so we need to investigate to see if its worth using it instead of a phase 1 box.



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We tried the door mirror caps and side strips on the track car to get an idea of what it looked like. MINT tbh.


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18th September 2009 - Welding Finished


Quite a few jobs have been completed this week. Not had a chance to update. Today we got the last of the welding done. All the cage is complete and the bulkhead ‘fireproofed’ (All the unused holes plated over) Filled the hole in the bulkhead that the recirculation inlet used to occupy. Seeing as the welder was out, it got plated up also. Made a mess of the freshly painted engine bay but never mind, just have to do it again.



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A harness bar has been welded to the cage. You can also see where we have drilled some hole into the non structural body panels.


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One of the small jobs (but took ages) that got done over the last week was to cut down the heater box as much as possible. Removing the face and feet outlets and all the mechanism. This just leaves the hot/cold function and it only blows to the windscreen. Had to block off the hole where the other outlets used to be. We had many discussions about the heater, weather to keep it, replace it with something like an electric one or loose it altogether. It doesn’t weigh a huge amount, costs nothing and does the job of demisting perfectly. If we end up in a wet race (Quite likely) then we should, at least, be able to see.



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So the shell is getting there. Now its just lots of grinding and tidying that needs to be done before it can all be rubbed down and painted.



22nd September 2009 - Gearbox Rebuilt

Yesterday we dropped off a gearbox to Agency Transmission’s in Worcester. We decided to get a full inspection done on the cup box we bought with the spare engine. It has a slightly lower final drive ratio than a normal phase 1 172 box. This should suit us more for what we are using it for. We have the option, in future, to change the ratio to pretty much what we want as Agency have loads in stock. So we will see how we do on the various circuits we will visit and look into changing if we feel the need at a later date.

The next morning I received a call to give me a report on what was needed. Obviously being a used gearbox we had no idea what to expect but it was in quite good condition. It needed a 3rd/4th syncro, a 4th gear syncro ring and a few bearings and seals. They also suggested replacing some of the diff parts (planet gears) that had signs of wear.

4 hours later the gearbox was complete and ready for collection, Fantastic service.


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  172 Race Car
23rd September 2009 - Flywheel

A week or so ago we dropped off our spare flywheel to a local machine shop. Its just come back. They tend to specialise in big race engines and classic Ferraris and stuff. They lightened the flywheel down to 4.5kgs and rebalanced it. The clutch face was also skimmed.



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25th September 2009 - Interior prep


Interior has been all prepped ready for painting. Over the last week we have finished off the grinding and cleaning up of all the rough edges and welding. First we planned to do the interior all silver with the cage painted orange. But after seeing how bright the chosen colour is we had a change of heart. Silver with a black cage. Problem is it’s a lot of work to mask up all the different parts, so another change of plans and it was decided to do it all one colour and do it WHITE. It has been given a few coats of primer today. Paint will be going on next week sometime.


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Tony took the tailgate off to make it easier to paint the interior and went a bit mad with the hole cutter again.



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After all that the car was hitched back up to the back of the Gator and put to bed for another night.



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28th September 2009 - Interior Paint


As said previously the interior is being painted white, the only option for a competition car really. All the door shuts were masked up to prevent over spray and the tailgate removed again to make access easier. We found an old spry gun in the workshop so instead of rattle cans we decided to use this. The local paint supply shop assured us that 1 litre of paint and some thinners (50/50 mix) would be enough to do all the interior. Around half way through the job the paint began to run out, shortly after that the compressor packed up. Had to abandon for the night………


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  172 Race Car
29th September 2009 - Interior Paint Take 2


After yesterdays progress, then disaster, we tried again. Went and bought some more paint and thinners and using a hired compressor finally got the job finished.


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In between coats the heater box was tidied up further. From these angles you can see how tiny it is now.



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30th September 2009 - Wishbones


Got quite a few jobs to do over the next week or so away from the shell. Quite a bit of prepping of components to get done. First up the lower suspension arms (wishbones). Got hold of an old and very tired set of Clio 182 Cup arms (As far as we can tell they are the same anyway). Stripped the arms bare of the very worn ball joints and bashed out the bushes with a very large hammer.



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Bought a set of power flex bushes for them. These needed the collars fitted to the arm and then tack welded into place.



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After a quick clean up of the arm, it was then just a simple job of assembling the bushes and bolting the new ball joints to them. We also bought some new securing bolts from Renault.



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4th October 2009 - Tailgate


Not happy with the tailgate resembling a piece of cheese, more metal was trimmed from it. Then t was given a few coats of white paint. We will probably be fitting some pins to it at some stage as its very flimsy now.


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Another pic of the interior in all its whiteness



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We also got hold of a cover especially made to fit this car. Will keep it nice and dry with the winter months on the way.


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9th October 2009 - Dashboard



Picked up a dashboard from a local breakers. Going with a phase 2 dash again as was in the track car. Got hold of a dark grey coloured one this time (Much better) The centre switch panel that was in the track car (in the position of the radio and button panel) worked well but when strapped in tight could be difficult to reach. The heater controls too. Inspired by some other race cars we had seen, we got hold of an empty electronics box from the local Maplins shop. This will be our main switch panel and have switches for fuel pumps, demisting fan, ignition, cooling fan and a starter button.

With the dremel skills of Matt (Burpspeed.com admin) on the case, we took over 2kgs of un needed plastic from the lower dash and fitted the switch box panel. The dash top was also modified to help fitting it with the cage in the way. Normally the dash top slides over the lower section. The slide bits were cut off so the top can just be dropped onto the lower section and screwed together. Even the stock heater control panel had its guts ripped out, just leaving the hot/cold control.



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The (nearly) finished article.


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  172 Race Car
15th October 2009 - Engine Bay Paint Take 3?


After seeing how nice the interior looks in white we were both thinking the same thing. What a shame we painted the engine bay silver.

However, its not too late. We had planned to get the track car up to the workshop and make a start on stripping it, so we delayed that by a day and got the engine bay painted (for the 3rd time).

Tony did all the hard work, he loves it really. Another time consuming rub down and masking job. Followed by a few coats of white.



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The underside of the bonnet was also treated to the new colour. Now we need to start bolting things to the shell and make some real progress.



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17th October 2009 - Track car Strip


The time had come to say goodbye to the track car. It had done us proud over the last two years but we needed some vital components from it. We started late in the afternoon as in the morning we had gone along to Snetterton to see the guys competing in the last round of the 'Tintops'. We came away much happier after having many of our questions answered and after having a good look around the other cars. Everyone was very helpful and friendly and it has left us even more looking forward to next year. A spot of lunch and it was on with the work. The got the car up on the ramp and started taking bits off. The exhaust and radiator came out first.


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The wings, bonnet, bumper and headlights came off and will be kept as spares.



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The drive shafts were removed and given a clean up, they are in good condition.


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Next job was to remove the pas pump, its been absolutely faultless on the track car. Were very pleased with the modification. Its a Citroen Saxo Electro/hydraulic pump with the Clio and Saxo pipes joined together. It gives the steering a very nice feel and is not overly assisted.


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The engine bay wiring loom came out next. Its so big and has dozens of unwanted wires. The best thing we can do with it is to start from scratch, just using what we need. The last thing removed was the starter connections, Very fiddly as they are under the exhaust manifold and have to be done from underneath.


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Supporting the engine and gearbox on stands we removed the remaining mounts and attached the crane. It all came out very easily with plenty of space.



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The engine and box were given a good hose down and inspection. The gearbox has seen better days and has a crunchy 3rd/4th syncro, a common failure so were told. Keeping it as a spare.


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We will be using the engine as is. Its been very reliable and well looked after. But does look very scruffy. we removed the inlet manifolds and timing covers for painting.
A modification was made to the thermostat, the middle part was cut away to leave just the top part. The rubber seal sits on this so the stat cannot be removed completely. Now we have a permanently open thermostat with a slight improvement in flow.



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That's enough for today, more tomorrow.




18th October 2009



This mornings task was to get the car out of the workshop. We needed to remove the suspension and front sub frame from the track car but doing so on the ramp would of left it very difficult to manoeuvre out of the workshop. So we got it back down on its wheels and moved it around to the driveway.



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Once there we got it up on stands and removed the front and rear coilovers. They are AST adjustable. After some spring swapping we finally got the car balance to our liking at the last track day we did. The problem we then faced was that the dampers were valved to suit softer road spec spring rates. Using stiffer springs (460lbs front; 450lbs rear) meant it was quite under damped. They had to be set near max to get anything near what was needed. Although we could use them as they are on the race car, we’ve decided to take the opportunity to get them rebuilt and re-valved to suit the stiffer springs and also with and eye on future changes. Taking them into to Curtis at AST UK this week to be done.



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Next we took the complete sub frame out (only 6 bolts by this stage) and took it back around to the workshop. The hubs were removed, these are having a clean up and new bearings later this week. The rest of the sub frame mounted components were removed and given a good steam clean, then left to dry in the sun.



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After an hour or so spent tiding up the workshop and sorting out all the bits out, we had a small amount of time to get the race car into the workshop.



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We only had time to fit a few components. The heater box and blower fan went it with out issue. But another hole had to be drilled to fit the wipe linkage (Citroen AX Single wiper)



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The dash support bar was refitted, this had been cut down slightly and painted a few weeks ago. Then we trial fitted the dash to make sure everything lined up nicely. And it did after some slight fettling.



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Very pleased with how it looks. We actually feel like we are building a car now instead of stripping things down and painting all the time.
 
  172 Race Car
21st October 2009 - Bearings


Got the front hubs stripped down today, a local garage pressed the bearings out for us as we don’t have a press in the workshop. One of the few things we don’t have. Gave them a good going over with a wire brush to clean off all the loose rust. Then a coat of hamerite. (Were now on our second tin)

Once they were dry the new bearings were pressed in by a local Kwik fit of all places. I was in there having a tyre fitted to my works van and noticed a very nice shiny, little used hydraulic press in the corner of their workshop. A really good press with all the tools neatly boxed up with it, meant the job was a breeze and the new bearings went in without any problems.



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I’ve picked up the rebuilt suspension from Curtis at AST. Amazingly fast turn around. He has rebuilt them to be more suitable for track work. Previously they were damped for the road and much softer springs. He said they were very tired and had done a lot of work. At a guess id say they had done about 2,500 miles on the track car (Mostly at Bedford) and probably 6,000 miles by the previous owner (Daily road use, ring trips and UK track days)

He has rebuilt them to suit the springs we now use and also to be suitable if we go stiffer at some stage. Big changes to the bump and rebound to try and cut down on the body roll as much as possible. The softest setting we now have is stiffer than the hardest we did have and he has also shortened the front shock length by adding a bigger spacer. This also makes the front shocks stronger and stops them flexing. Finally filling them with motorsport spec oil.

We cant wait to try them out now.




24th October 2009 - Engine Prep


A few things cleaned and painted. Engine block hamerite black, inlet manifold, rocker cover, engine mount, throttle body and cambelt cover all painted silver.


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26th October 2009 - On its wheels!


We had set ourselves the challenge of getting 4 wheels on the car today. It wasn’t a massive task we had set ourselves as we had all the bits we needed so it was just a case of bolting it all together.

So the car was towed around to the workshop and put onto the ramp.


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The first job that we needed to do was modify the steering column. We removed the lock barrel from it and also the eight adjustment mechanism. This was then bolted in a fixed position before being welded solid to prevent it all from moving about. A quick coat of paint and it was ready for fitting to the car.


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A few simple things to bolt to the car, the pedal box after a quick paint and also the servo and master cylinder. The servo had had a coat of paint and the master cylinder was swapped for a non-ABS Clio 172 Cup item. The original master cylinder for the ABS car had only 2 outlets. The Cup version has 4 outlets so we can diagonally split the brake circuits.



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Then we moved on to the sub frame. The steering rack had come straight from the track car, given a clean and paint and was checked over. The track rod ends are only 6 months old so they stayed. The rebuilt wishbones and freshly pained anti roll bar were bolted on to the sub frame. We also changed the anti roll bar bushes to power flex ones to match the wishbones bushes. Wishbone bolts were left loose until we had it all built up and on the car. The last thing to go on was the heat shield.



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We decided to make life easy for ourselves at this point so raised the ramp and set the sub frame on a table under the car. When removing the sub frame originally, some of the captive nuts had started to spin and caused a slight headache getting them off. Because the nut has a clip attached to make it captive, its difficult to get a spanner on them. Binned the lot and went for the old fashioned method of just a bolt and nut. Lowering the ramp onto the sub frame was very easy, it all lined up nicely.



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A fairly trouble free task next, hubs and coilovers bolted on. We use AST adjustable top mounts. These secure the suspension top to the turret at an offset angle, making it possible to adjust them for camber and/or castor. As we have slotted hole in the lower shock bodies to use for camber adjustment, we set the tops to give maximum available castor angle. Something that the Phase 1 172 Clio is lacking as standard. They still don’t give as much as we would like and we may investigated other changes at a later stage. The last thing to do here was finish tightening the wishbones and fit the sub frame braces.



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The next step actually took longer than we thought it would but were very pleased with the outcome. We had to mount the steering column to the car. The tried and tested method of lowering the column mounting position we used on the track car, was used again. The stock fitting uses captive nuts in the body and short bolts up into them to secure the column. We thread some bolts down through the captive nuts and then use 2 nuts on each corner and several washers to mount the column in a lower position and this also makes it fully adjustable for angle and height. We will fine tune the height once the seat is in. Then we trimmed down the big grommet on the lower column, drilled some holes and bottled to the body to stop the draft.



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Very pleased with our progress for the day, we dug out the old front discs from the scrap pile and fitted them along with the wheels. We could now push the car out of the workshop until the next time. One final job was to add some aluminium tape to the pas pipe. The old stuff looked very tired.



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  172 Race Car
27th October 2009 - Bonnet Hinges

Just a small update today. We have decided to make the bonnet fully removable so to do this we have welded the hinges in the closed position and will be fitting bonnet pins to them where the mounting bolts used to go.


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4th November 2009 - A Splash Of Colour


Tony has been busy in the workshop this week. The front and rear bumpers have been painted along with the front wings.


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Side skirts are the same mental orange that the wing mirrors are. Along with the small roof trims.



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6th November 2009 - Rear Shocks


AST supply a full rear coil over unit to replace the rear shock absorber, leaving the stock spring location on the axle redundant.


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  172 Race Car
12th November 2009 - Donkey returns


Another full day in the workshop planned for today. First job, tow the car around to the workshop. Once there we removed the bonnet and started mounting the pins to the rear of the bonnet.



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Then we moved on to making up some new brake pipes. A very time consuming job, it took so much longer than we thought it would but we wanted it to be as neat and tidy as possible. The rear pipes ‘Y’ together and then a single pipe passes through the bulkhead. We will make the pipe that goes through the car at a later stage when we have decided where to locate the bias valve.



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Now they were done we could get the engine and box built back up and get it ready to go in the car. The rear crankshaft seal was showing signs of leaking so it was changed before fitting the lightened and balanced flywheel and clutch. The gearbox then bolted up to the block.


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The starter motor was rebuilt by Alt-Start in Gloucester. They replaced the solenoid to change the trigger connection from a push on spade terminal to a proper bolt on one, should be a little more reliable. The solenoid is a weak part on these so we are told so a new one kills 2 birds. Due to its location behind the exhaust manifold its an absolute swine to get to. For this reason we decided to fit the cables at this point and make them part of the engine installation. If/when the engine comes back out we wont have to struggle to remove them from the engine before.


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Engine in time, what an awkward job it was. Mainly caused by us not having it central on the crane. After about 45mins of struggling and swearing it was in and on its mounts. Next time we will make sure we have the crane central and balanced on the chain.

After we fitted he driveshafts and called it a night, pleased with the progress.




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ado

ClioSport Club Member
  기아 &#4
Looks good so far. Nice tow hitch.;)

Are you sticking with fuese or you going to use breaker instead?
 
  ibiza cupra
just quickly flicked though it but when ive got tim,e ill be coming back to read this properly. proper project.
 
  TrackCar & F30 330d
I do agree with you that just doing trackdays will only give you so much enjoyment and racing is only really the next thing to go to.

I see myself doing the same in the future.

Great build your doing, looks like so much fun and i'd love to have all that room :)

I look forward to seeing it progress :)

Oh and i love the colour of the wingmirrors ;) (snap)
 
  53 Clio's & counting
Was expecting something like this when you said you had something special coming fella, really nice work there.

Is the racr series your entering very expensive? PM if poss as this is something i may have in the pipeline adventually
 
  Fabia VRS Special Ed
FFS! I got to the bottom, expected to click the next page and there wasn't one :cry:

Keep goin guys, fantastic project...Keep us posted :D
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
Christ, you don't hang about!! You've got s**t loads done since I spoke to you last!

The loton commuter must be doing you proud! ;)
 
  RenaultSport 172
That looks awesome fella!! Was wondering why the AST's didn't go up for sale,was hoping to nab them. ;)
 

RichCup

ClioSport Club Member
  #174
An improved version of the original burpspeed with some tartiness thrown in? Where's the tissues when you need em! :eek:

Excellent work, car is looking very very nice!
 
  Qashcow
im surprised you guys have let it out this soon, i was expecting to see the thread after xmas tbh!

fair play to you, Tony and Danny with the effort put in, cant wait to see the semi-finished article and be your pit b**ch mmmmmm
 
  340i
Awesome!

I knew something like that was coming along :D I would love to have to work space to do this kind of build... hats off to you sir
 

maynard

ClioSport Club Member
  ph2 172 track car
excellent work, hope you guys are pleased with yourselves! looking foward to the next update on what we all know is going to be an epic car :)
 
  172 Race Car
Thank you all for the kind words. We will update as and when we can.

Of course we will let you all know what dates we will be racing. But we do plan to do some RS Trackdays aswell

Russ: Racing is expensive, thats all you need to know


Got my ARDS test (Racing drivers school to get my licence) on Saturday at Brands. a little nervous tbh,



Oh and a special hello to Burpspeed's number 1 fan, RichCup, we hope you like.
 
  A4 DTM/iceberg cup
WOW...knew it had all gone quiet but bu99er me..

top job guys..............

and Jay you're a sneaky sod i've been waiting ages for some clue as to whats going down.
 

shiftspark

ClioSport Club Member
  R53 GR86
Nice work!
I know what you mean re sprints/hillclimbs having done them on and off for years you spend most of the day waiting around to do 5 mins and 4 miles of driving , although it's great fun and can become quite intense as you look for those elusive fractions of a second.
When I did my first track day last year it came as quite a shock being on track with other cars and doing more mileage on a day as in a couple of years sprinting!
It's all relative when it comes down to costs, competing is a seriously quickway to spend cash!
 
  ValverInBits
looks excellent. Really loving some of the little touches.

On a side note, the fully open thermostat - I'm not so sure. Will that not just cause your ECU to limit your revs, reduce your thermal efficiency and cause the car to richen up the mixture? Not good for power.
 


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