RenaultSport 200 - Gearboxes

[John0021]

Hi there
I'm considering changing my clio 182 for a 200 cup (i've seen a 2010 model with 40k) but there are a lot of adverts i'm reading that have 'reconditioned or new gearbox'. I went to go and see a 2011 plate recently that had a new gearbox at 30k! What's this all about? Is this down to abuse or is the gearbox just not up to the job? It seems to be mentioned too frequently in adverts for his to be solely down to poor driving/abuse.

Thanks in advance

John

 

[PAUL JA]

Gearbox can be a weak point, 3rd and 4th syncro generally I believe. Its always worth bleeding the clutch though just to make sure it is the box at fault.
If the box has to come out its an ideal excuse for a LSD to go in :up:

 

[John0021]

Thanks, Paul
Is the 200 gearbox weaker than the 182? I thought it unheard of for gearboxes to fail at 30K. Is this a fundamental problem with these gearboxes or is it mainly misuse/lack of care? I'm just concerned about buying a 200 for £7K then having a £1.5k repair bill shortly after...

 

[imprezaworks]

From what I've read they are worse than the 182.

 

[NorthloopCup]

The gearboxes on the 197's and 200's suffer with synchro ring issues as said above, but renault have now changed the design of them.
I've rebuilt a few TL4 boxes now, and tbh, other than the synchro issue they ain't that bad a box. To put it into perspective, a typical parts cost for the jc5 is £380 + labour. The TL4 however will be around £200 + labour.

I'd say the TL4 is no better, but certainly no worse than a jc5.

 

[Typhoon]

All a bit hit and miss with the 197/200 boxes. Mine, touch wood, has been faultless to date and it's on 80k.

 

[car.crash]

I'm on 80k and I'm on my 3rd but the 2nd repair wasn't done right.

 

[STEVE.M]

I'm on 80k and I'm on my 3rd but the 2nd repair wasn't done right.

Could be doing you a favour.
http://www.renault-spares.co.uk/new...00-20-16v-gearbox---tl4-024-tl4024-7330-p.asp

 

[car.crash]

Could be doing you a favour.
http://www.renault-spares.co.uk/new...00-20-16v-gearbox---tl4-024-tl4024-7330-p.asp

Many thanks for the heads up.

So far mines been great though.

 

[oreA]

For interest, there's a thread on the RS197/200 forum and of about 500 responders 25% have had their gearbox repaired/replaced :grimacing:.

 

[Lctr]

Mine hated going into first gear when cold ,even with a gearbox oil change, it had done 14,000 miles the and the oil was black as coal

 

[John0021]

Thanks all. Very helpful indeed

 

[Christopher]

Same as with the JC5, they just don't like to be rushed.
Mine was replaced under warranty at 50k with syncro failure on third. Since then and with the updated parts, it's been fine.

 

[John0021]

Thanks