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Looks very nice - 182 style / 172 recessed exhaust would finish it off perfectly imo!

Im 99% sure I want a 197 as my next car. Already planning modifications! Are the 197s worth camming? What other performance mods are worthwhile? Looking at most likely pre-cat delete, de-cat and yozza cat-back. Not expecting massive power - but 200-210bhp isn't unrealistic for these mods is it?

Cheers for response Craig - and everyone else with helpful contribution to the thread, btw what exhaust you running on your RB mate? And is there anything major to look out for on the 197s when buying?

Thanks for taking the time to write up a mini review, was pretty useful/interesting actually! Im definitely leaning more towards a 197 now, I just love the look of them so much, pretty sure I want UR, but LY is a slight possibility too.. Which year did they revise the gearbox and what exactly...

What ridiculous running costs? Obviously fuel is a big one - i'm guessing you mean bigger tyres/brakes and other consumables?

Interesting opinions, strange how some feel the 5k kick and other dont in the 197s, does the 1*2 have a definitive 5k kick then?

Does it really feel that slow? :( You've had a couple of trophys now havn't you, dave? How does the 197 compare to the Trophy specifically then? I almost want the thrills of a Trophy in a 197 shell, I just think the 197 looks the nuts! (turbo anyone?!)

So there is a 5k kick with the 182 but not with the 197? Its like that with my Williams, no kick or anything but constant strong pulling - which is good - but almost makes me want to cam it for that 4.5k/5k kick!

For ages I was set on getting a Trophy for my next car (currently driving my Williams 3), but now Im really really pulled towards getting an UR 197, I just think they look so good. Obviously the 1*2s feel more raw and oldschool, which is good, but how much difference is there between the...

Guessing that was second hand? Not a bad price! So if the diffuser comes with the chrome tips on, surely an exhaust system would be behind the tips and would melt the diffuser?

Nice, how much was the diffuser and is it a straight swap to fit? So can the 200 diffuser fit any exhaust system then? Also, nice UR turbo you mate has!

Looks extremely nice! Looking at possibly getting a 197 in UR at some point (or maybe a trophy? I don't know!!). Yours is exactly how I want mine to look but obviously a different colour. How/where do you get the 200 rear diffuser? And are the chrome tips part of the diffuser or are they the...

Very nice examples - need to really polish up and take some better pics of my Williams, waiting for a sunny day though! Keep the pictures coming!

Interesting stuff Wobba, nice car! How much does it cost for TBs on the Williams? (Obviously there are different TBs available, but a guideline?)

And I think I need to get some better pics up of my Williams, looks more like 449 blue in those pics than 432!

Whats the spec on your mk1 Wobba?

Where would be the best place to chop a section out?

Fair enough - Would chopping out a bit effect the flow/power delivery you reckon? wouldnt want to compromise that, but would prefer the exhaust slightly more recessed!

Looks pretty mint from the pic chris, he must take good care of it! Ah I see, I think mine is 3.5". Anyone have any idea how to make the exhaust slightly more recessed? I guess the whole exahust system must be different to the original magnex!

Yeah mines a magnex catback, however mine seems a little larger than both yours and Luke's on his valver (which iirc is also a magnex) and mine seems to stick out the back bumper a bit more than both of yours.. any idea of any reason why? The tailpipe could do with being 1/2" or so more recessed...

Very nice! Why did you sell it? And btw what exhaust system is on it?

Agreed! They're like armchairs!! How comfortable are 182 seats?

Very nice williams' Jamie, is that dimma clio yours? Cant make my mind up on those whether I like them or not haha!

Nice example Stevo. Out of interest what do you prefer driving, your 225 or the Williams?

What do you mainly use your mk1 for chip? Trackdays? Btw what power is the williams lump running/have you got power graphs?

Love that Luke, almost had that off you when you had it for sale, as you know.. Decided to hold out and wait to be able to drive my Williams.. loving this car sooooo much! These cars are real hidden gems, they aren't appreciated enough!

No, please post your Valvers too! This should be the Mk1 appreciation thread of CS!

Thanks for all the responses/kind words! Is there no-one else in here with a Williams/valver?! :rasp:

Love the Quicksilver/Gti's. How tuneable are the quick's btw?

Nah it ins't, it's a Magnex system, the standard one is 2" inwardly rolled tailpipe iirc.