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It need to be said that your are driving a drivers car....the 'twitch' serves you as a reminder that your in a serious car that needs serious attention...if you want stable and boring buy a focus dude, and leave the men to drive the clio's.......ok that doesn't sound quite right!!!!!!! you catch...

Its all about awarness..... Check Temp.....all the time. Look up.....if your back country then fallen leaves will stick and your car wont. Rule of thumb...if your front wheel drive and you understeer....then back off...this does'nt always mean using the brakes....dipping the clutch quickly will...

big warrent time too....... any probs and ren have always sorted it and never asked any questions.mayve thats just my garage

easy now.your looking at a modern car with all the tricks and performance of something much more expensive..........If you want bang out performance with a trick look with all the toys then look no further than a full fat 172

There is def another one...it might not be digbeth but near by. they sell the wee road pilots....Its a weird name....think it begins with B

Is the throttle response that much better from the cable on the Mk1 one than the digital on the later mk's to warent a change?

Sweet guys.....hey markm what have you had her up to with the mods on? Who is AWT and how far are ther from Brum? Love the engine bay man....sweet sweet sweet!!

spot on guys.I did hear of one in Digbeth but I cant remember the name of it....true or false? A doubled barrled name of some sorts.

I just moved down to birmingham from bonny Scotland and I was wondering if any of you retrobates could point me in the dorectoin of a good garage to help me get my Mk2 172 up to speed....like 6sec 0-60 speed!!! Any suggestions who can help me? Cheers

The sat nav is pretty s**t anyway...I would install your own stealth kit

Hola and welcome, I just signed up to and I am loving the responses from people with just as much love for their cars as I have!! Great! As for using Ktec for your stuff I would recommend them. They have all the sh*t and a great website if you dont have a near by supplier for your...

Cant actually believe you are having this conversation!!!!!! The Clio is nearly a different league. SPec, Performance, dynamics, equipment.....its darn right dirty fun!!! The polo is a VW though...so it will probabaly be fault free.......thats not the point though!!!!

How good would it be to have a Trophy with all the good bits from the 172!!?? Its such a more complete car. Saying that If I found a trophy for the right price I might just take it!!!!

Spot on!! Lovin the Recaros!

That sounds like good advice!! Can you buy the Recaros from Renault? What sort of coilovers exist that compete with the Trophy's set up? My warrenty end in Nov 06 so If I wait till then I can modify the 172 a litle anyway huh?

I have been offered 8k trade in on my 53 plate Mk2 172 with 23k on the clock for a new Trophy at 15,275k. Im I being stupid, given the differences in the performance, and loosing a car with no finance for 7k worth of finance. HELP!! What do I do? The Trophy wont be in the showroom for...