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They do both kits, iirc the cup pack part no ends in a 2 Should have just bough a 182 cup :quiet:!

not for me, totally ruined the feel on mine

Cup owns there, i even love the bare rubbing strips, contrasts well with GW (not a fan of the stick on tat though ;))

They have electric windows lol! Its only leccy mirrors they lose! I've had both a 197 and now a cup. They feel the same, as in yes the soft touch dash is nice, but the general ambience is the same... Basically you lose Keyless entry AC (its option on a Cup) Soft touch dash (now hard plastic)...

R27's dont come in GW, and therefore are pony ;)

+1 My 197 cup has nearly 40k and they still look fine, no sign of wear. Fat people, the seats are telling you something ;)

Nice write up that, need to get my speedlines done, satin for me though :)

I rated Petes 53 on mine, and it smells soooo good. Not very durable though, more of a summer wax imo

Um, not a full undershot, but bits Bit of a theme there, they're 197s, but its the same underneath ;)

Depends what you want I had a Cup for around 3 years from 2004, loved every minute. Then got a 197, loved that, sold it for another 172 Cup. Now dont get me wrong they (172 cups) feel way more brutal than any 197/200, however I regretted going back to a MK2. That was mainly because of the...

Only one i'd have on mine, i'd just need some nice tapered o.e looking trims

Cool pics! Love this, 197's own 200's in looks, front and rear ;) Why anyone swaps a 197 diffuser out for a 200 one is beyond me

Its a myth, my 2 197's have averaged over 28mpg, my current cup is sat at over 30 at the mo. Only town cars average low mpg, and lets be fair its not was the car was made for.

Ruined the car for me, I had a set of 16mm eibachs on my previous 197 that was already lowered on H&R coilovers, I found it made it nervous/twitchy especially under braking. They lasted about 4 days lol. No need in my book

Go for it if you want to ruin the handling....

I'd be pretty happy if it had this face

how did you check the battery? Voltage may be present, but as soon as its put under a load (ie starting) a duff battery would do what you're describing. Imo if it was an earth problem you'd get nothing

bumpo

197 Cup owns tbh ;)

^That can now be adjusted by adjusting the strike pin, dead easy to sort, is the door sitting too low?? If so slacken the pin, few small taps upwards, re tighten, check, repeat untill happy :)

I was thinking the exact same thing, MK1 Spiritos were renowned for it! Anyway bit of a shitter, should have got a Cup, they have handles in proper positions ;)

I was a Sega man at heart, had the master system and mega drive... Loved streets of rage series, 2 being the best imo also loved road rash and desert strike! However, I did buy a SNES for Street fighter 2, the mega drive couldnt cope with the conversion :( I dred to think how much of my...

Fair do's not for me, tapered o.e FTW imo

Try a standard 172 reg, then a proper 172 cup, surely that's the way to find out??

Stunning that!

what a goon!

wtf already, lol!!

Need a guide here, its coming up every day All 197's have Brembos. Cup basically means stiffer lower (7mm) suspension, red brembos anthricite alloys. A 197 Cup loses the soft touch dash, AC, metal pedals, cruise control, and thicker steering wheel over a standard 197 Manual AC can be specced...

The seller now has a yellow one iirc? Shady?

Depends how you're built imo. I'm 5 stone wet and dont have any issues, now on 37k! Maybe it was a skinny guy who tested them originally....