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No proof that's iPhone pre order but if so I'm genuinely astounded. Didn't insult you anyway. I said its bollox they are taking pre orders. If they are so be it i m just surprised.

Bollox

Ah okay. That's my only gripe and maybe i might have to get a 6+

Are both phones full HD 1080p?

Any idea when carriers release pricing?

Yes it is. But not for the little ones mum who won't do it lol

Skype is great. But to a non tech family .. They just won't. ItS face time or nout!

I love this nexus but its crippling when your little girl rings you and cries when she wants to face time and you can't

I need to swap my Nexus 5 & LG G watch back for a iPhone .. The lack if face time audio and video is proving killer!

I've pm'ed you bud

I've decided I need to sell my nexus 5 and the lg g watch I use with it and go back to iphone. The continuity with my Mac and loss of face time is proving killer for me :(

How do I join the early update programme?

That 'cops and robbers' is out in 2015 and it is the next 'proper' one as you called it.

f**k sake just saw this and had it installed yesterday!!

I'll swap one 5s for one htc one

That sucks

So your saying I can have gpe with the m8 and s onn?

How do you change ROMs with s on as google says it needs to be off

Got one of these yesterday .. Came already rooted so I tried getting s off with firewater but won't work? Any ideas .. Tried re rooting to ensure it was done properly .. Came pre installed with HD revolution 8.1 rom - guy I bought it from obvs did it

Surprise makes for exciting events.

Certainly after a more continued use of this under my iPad mini, iPhone and Yosemite on my mac mini I'm less underwhelmed .. I still think Yosemite was the killer release. The Apis opening is a major breakthrough I agree, BUT that won't be prudent until we see app updates, maybe 6 months time...

There nice! I'll have one on payday!

I'm not downloading the beta from the dev center .. We will see

It's a developer release certainly not a user one. The dev opportunities are brilliant .. But until there utilised .. We don't have many new toys!!

Yeah massively feature ridden .. Transforms the iOS community. It was lacklustre! First time I've ever gone meh!

We'll ios8 is s**t!

About to find out!

Meh, maybe not .. SMS and phone call .. s**t just got interesting!

Yosemite looks beautiful but it's a boring update feature wise so far!

WWDC isnt a hardware event, its World Wide DEVELOPER CONFERENCE .. its for Devs to learn .. the keynote just highlights to them what the changes are and what they can utilise within them