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www.camerapricebuster.co.uk will normally give you the best prices on cameras, lenses and accessories for the day. Always worth a try on Amazon just incase they're not upto date.

Cheap doesn't normally come into play with D-SLRs ! Looks like £330 is the best with 10 seconds on google: http://www.onestop-digital.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=33644

What do you mean by 'best' for your money ? Everyone's got a different idea what best is .. a £1200 ph1 is no different to a £8k Trophy in terms of power / reliability / speed / handling. They're all French hatchbacks. It's not like you're comparing a 316i to an ///M3 for instance...

Cue 15 pages of black rectangles haha !

So boobs it is ? Or what... come on guys, lets choose something fun ! I think light painting, as it involves skill with a camera but needs a bit of artistic flare too, with a good imagination obviously.

You don't need an expensive camera to get good shots. You just need to know what to do with it ! Practice, practise, practise !!! Learn what changing the aperture and shutter speed do to the image. White balance makes a huge difference too. Composition, and rule of thirds are important...

SRP isn't a polish flol!!! AG glass polish will do. Fast glass will need a couple of goes to get rid of most traffic film. Most importantly - Clean your blades .. failing that, change your blades.

Light painting ? orrr... Boobs. Animals. Night. Contrast. B&W. Bokeh. Abstract. Colour.... the possibilities are endless !

Couple from me from the last couple of days: The Moon by evil_giraffes_rule, on Flickr Spot the wasp by evil_giraffes_rule, on Flickr Pollen by evil_giraffes_rule, on Flickr

4WD is defo better than FWD in the snow/ice. Not sure how I'd have got on without the Scoob last year TBH. My unmade hill of a road was just ice. Sash's Clio didn't go anywhere, neither did housemates //M. Scoob was unbothered by snow, slush, ice etc. Sideways on command too :D Stopping...

Or try your other thread.. http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?594464-Wanting-a-Clio-182-... :S

^ Clios only put out 172PS (if they have that!) at ~6500 RPM. No weight over the front wheels !? Is your engine in the boot ? Traction control is not needed in anything under 400HP+RWD, ever. Throttle control is much better.

If you've got a remote, leave it open for a few minutes ! Or get StarStax and stack 20-30 second images to save light pollution ruining the shot.

My ph1 decked, on paradas was ace in the snow. My scoob however, was epic :D

Speed reading FTL !

Winter tyres work well under 7 degrees Celsius... They'll be shot before September if you buy them now or you'll have put the car in a hedge as they don't work when it's warm.

FLOL .. can of worms opened .. possibly thread no. 1,000,000 on the same subject ? MotQ's .. LMFAO .. imagine how manly you'd feel with an ///M3 :evil: I'm presuming you're saving up as you're not looking to buy one tomorrow..? Factor in comedy insurance, servicing and things that might...

I'll let you off then ;)

Everyone knows the flat-4 sounds like a Subaru due to the unequal length manifold :rasp: Deleting that however, is sacrilege !! :eek:

While I was writing the above essay, the following was proving my point: Read this: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?593202-Clio-first-car-project Take your GF on holiday with the cash instead. :approve:

I am getting old. I'll openly admit that. Generally, as proven on here most weeks, people take a smart looking standard car, and wreck it with tints, badly painted wheels, awful lights, bonnet lifters, slam it on its arse so it's un-drivable, and then wonder why they get ripped to shreds on...

Yes but so are 1.2 Clios ;) He says he wants it to look better. Springs + insurance change will just about fill the budget. It'll look the same as if the boot was filled with a couple of bags of cement. What's the point ?!

Don't waste your money. Wash it ... keep it clean and just leave it be !

Coilovers for £300 ? No chance.... What is it ? 1.2 ? V6 ?

Fancied one of these after I sold my GTti... Boost in a car that weighs as much as a bag of sugar is fab. No one believed it was a 1litre ! However, I bought a Clio instead... :o

So it beeps after someone scrapes up the side with a handbag after the damage is done !? An alarm warning people to stay away won't stop the stupid/ignorant/clumsy ones unfortunately.

Toys ?! Cruise is the only thing worth having, but I've survived 10 years of driving without it. Same goes for traction or stability control .. absolutely no need in a FWD hatch. Ph1's have ABS and a/c as standard.

The 172's are all Mk2s .. ph1 looks like this: Ph2 looks like this: I've owned both .. I preferred the dash/interior in the Ph2 .. That was it on plus points over the Ph1. The Ph1's interior never bothered me however. Ph1 in my experience is cheaper to buy, cheaper to insure, cheaper...

Ph1 all the way for so many reasons !

Sh*t. You'll need the Canon 10-22 EF I believe :approve: Remember, 10mm x1.6 = 16mm equiv.