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Dann2707's BMW 335D E91 Touring



NorthloopCup

ClioSport Moderator
I remember reading stage 2 wasn't much of a difference from 1, but 3 was massive. Maybe @NorthloopCup can advise better.
I have no involvement in gearbox maps/flashes mate. Mine has the alpina software coded into the box and it does make a difference. But I also considered the XHP shite after a few experiences of it.
But, and a it’s a big but, ZF8 is waaaaaaayyyyy different to the box Dan has. It’s a lot more refined, which is to be expected in all fairness.
 

dann2707

ClioSport Club Member
I've heard many people say something about gearbox maps on these taking a little time while adaptions relearn etc.

Your defo an old man, everyone else would have done remapped it immediately and also selected the stage 3 option 🤣

Great work though, given that you didn't know what INPA was a couple of weeks ago and now your bossing it.
Haha gotta start somewhere then work your way up to it then you feel like you're getting more for your money.

Thanks brudda. Yeah it's nice to get stuck in with it and learn about it.

I've just got a nice sexy hard box for the scope kit along with some new cables for it, will have a crack at playing with it next week if I get a mo.

Just got back from a meal and my mrs knew I was gonna take a pic so she automatically didn't walk in front of the soon to be capture area 😂 well trained.

Bloody loving every mile in it so far. Its such a lovely place to be and being auto is an absolute dream. I really would hate it in manual I'm sure.


I've ordered new wheel bolts for it as the ones at the moment are rusty as a ballsack.

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dann2707

ClioSport Club Member
Painted behind the wheels today as it was a horrible shade of brown that no one likes.

Also had a look in the service history booklet and I'm dead happy with the fact that it's got absolute full service history with every stamp when they should be. Something that is always nice to see. It's about due a service so I'll be getting all the bits to do it soon.

Been looking at doing a gearbox oil and filter change too but it's a little expensive at £240. I'll do it once I finish building the garage at work as I'm outfitting 2 x 2 post lifts at the moment. Will make it a lot easier to do when it's up in the air.

In other news the abs light came on again so ill do some live inpa data reading of the abs sensors at some point this week to help diagnose.

Excuse the ginger wheel bolts, new ones are on the way.

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Oh yeah I forgot to say, these suffer with rusty Tailgates and it looks like mine is going. I'm awaiting a call back from BMW Derby to get me booked in hopefully under warranty (thanks again @NorthloopCup for the advice)

I saw a little spec of rust under the paint before but I looked under the split Tailgate the other day and nearly shat myself.

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  Clio Dci
If you don’t have much luck with Derby let me know. I work at Leicester (if not too far to travel) in the parts but I’m sure I can help
 

R3k1355

ClioSport Club Member
Also had a look in the service history booklet and I'm dead happy with the fact that it's got absolute full service history with every stamp when they should be. Something that is always nice to see. It's about due a service so I'll be getting all the bits to do it soon.

So it's got full service history, fully stamped book and you're going to be the one who does the work themselves?

Would it not be better taking it to a local specialist, keep the service book going?
 

Touring_Rob

ClioSport Club Member
So it's got full service history, fully stamped book and you're going to be the one who does the work themselves?

Would it not be better taking it to a local specialist, keep the service book going?
On something new yes but your not going to hurt the value on something 10+ years old by doing a (better) service yourself imo.

I just keep a paper record of what parts were used and when things were done and I've never had any problems come sale time, the opposite in fact, most car ppl appreciate good quality parts and shorter service schedules.
 

dann2707

ClioSport Club Member
So it's got full service history, fully stamped book and you're going to be the one who does the work themselves?

Would it not be better taking it to a local specialist, keep the service book going?
It's not a bad shout mate but as Rob says it's probably not worth it now. I'll keep a record of all the bits bringered and stick them in the service book
 

Cookson

ClioSport Club Member
  Mk1 Audi TT 3.2 V6
I wouldn't be servicing the gearbox myself, they can be a pain in the arse.
 

Touring_Rob

ClioSport Club Member
Its very very straight forward Dan, especially with INPA because you can display the temp. Just jack it up and get it level, whole job take maybe 2hrs.

Can be a bit messy with the drain, removing sump and refill but its really like a 2/10, with 1/10 being changing the oil and 3/10 being changing a bulb on a Peugeot.
 

RSRowe

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 197
Certainly isn’t a hard job. Plenty of places out there charge stupid money for it too!

Might be worth you dojng the mechatronic seals whilst you’re there too.
 

dann2707

ClioSport Club Member
Yeah I'm sure it'll be reet and good shout with the mechatronic seals. Definitely makes sense whilst it's off.


I am getting a bit confused with disabling the orange side markers. They are deactivated on ncs expert so why on earth are they active in the lights....

I have asked all over Facebook so I'm waiting on a logical reply.
 

Cribert

ClioSport Club Member
  Cup 172
The gearbox is something I had done at a specialist. Wasn’t cheap but on the other hand I’ve heard so many horror stories that I wanted the peace of mind if something did go wrong I had a comeback
 

Touring_Rob

ClioSport Club Member
The gearbox is something I had done at a specialist. Wasn’t cheap but on the other hand I’ve heard so many horror stories that I wanted the peace of mind if something did go wrong I had a comeback

I think its one of those things that specialists make a big thing about, in reality with a bit of care is pish easy job. No offence to the specialists on here but Clio belts are a faf but not rocket science.

 

Cribert

ClioSport Club Member
  Cup 172
I think its one of those things that specialists make a big thing about, in reality with a bit of care is pish easy job. No offence to the specialists on here but Clio belts are a faf but not rocket science.

No specialist told me it was a big job or difficult. Many experiences online of diys going wrong. Just wasn’t willing to risk it
 

Touring_Rob

ClioSport Club Member
No specialist told me it was a big job or difficult. Many experiences online of diys going wrong. Just wasn’t willing to risk it
Sorry, I wasn't speaking about your decision specifically. Just that these things have a way of becoming 'standard online advice'. Rather than me saying you should have done a DIY, each to their own etc.

A while back if anyone mentioned doing their own belts on here they would get a ton of replies explaining what a hard job it was, and why only a specialist could do it. I read so many replies like this that I nearly didn't do it. However with appropriate tools and preparation it was a very straight forward job. I believe the same is true of the ZF box fluid change (more than believe as I've done the job).

People have been doing fluids on these boxes and the generations before them for donkeys years - all of a sudden its a potentially problematic and specialist only job - don't get it. Doing the VANOS on an e46 M3 is far far higher, with a far higher chance of bulk however over on cutters you'll get all the advice and help you could ever want.
 

Touring_Rob

ClioSport Club Member
To add to that - if a specialist has the proper equipment they are able to do a better job because they can run fluid into the system while car is running through gears and so also get the fluid out of the converter while the driveway paddle party will just get most of the jank fluid out.
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d
I'll be honest I'm not massively impressed after a quick drive up the road.

I wonder if it will take some driving to get to understand the benefits of it.

@Christopher you did this map too didn't you?

Nice that it actually shows you what gear you're in now though 😂
You need to do X number of miles steady driving for it to adapt IIRC, there should be details on the XHP website / app?#

Also depends how healthy your gearbox was to start with, did you check the adaptation values? Gives pressures & times for each clutch.
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d
Yeah I've heard about the process and the levelling off you need to do but as I've said about every car project I've worked on, how hard can it be lol?
Don't use anything other than genuine ZF Lifeguard 6 oil & filter and do NOT reset the gearbox adaptations
 

RSRowe

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 197
Fuchs ATF 6006 is the exact same oil and slightly cheaper.
But I’ve seen numerous times online about not resetting the adaptations.
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d
What happens if you reset the adaptations?
Bad things...



(basically resets everything to default, so doesn't account for the years of wear & tear on the components, you can get slip, jerkiness, etc)
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d
You can read the adaptations using the XHP app, post them on here and I can tell you how good/bad they are.

It will give you the quickcharge pressures & times for all 5 clutches (A to E).
 

dann2707

ClioSport Club Member
Thank you I'll do that when I get a mo.

It definitely does feel much better to drive this week that's for sure. When I boot it it's taking me up the rev range for longer rather than going hmmmmmmm what should I do for a bit, oh okay ill downshift in a couple of secs for you Dan2606039t70707 because you need instant power.

The overtaking power is just effortless I absolutely love it. Been using the heated seats recently too on a morning I can't believe I wasnt bothered about them when I had the z4 (which didn't have them)

Going to start getting some service bits stuff together, I've just received this in the post which looks like a massive widgy pump. Can't wait to use it

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