Induction Kit

[DYL4N]

What induction kit is best for the 172?

 

[Pricey98]

Search fatty induction kit.

 

[imprezaworks]

Phase 1 airbox- Quiet, best for gains/no loss. £40/50 Second hand.
V6 Airbox- As above, maybe a touch better. £50/60 Second hand, albeit rarer than the Phase 1.
Ktec induction. Noise/maybe a slight increase in performance. £80/£100 second hand.
Fatty style kit. Noise/maybe a slight increase in performance. £40/60 New depending on what filter/silicone bend you go with.

I have the Fatty style with a larger filter which works well and sounds good. I'm about to try a k+n mesh type filter because i mess.

No its coming to a cooler time of year the fatty/ktec will work nicely.

 

[Greeny.]

Ktec induction kit is fine and gives gains when coupled with other breathing mods, matched inlets for example. The kit people call fatty for some reason is just the pikey version of the ktec kit for a fraction of the cost, fine if all you want is abit of noise though as ultimately both won’t do a lot

 

[imprezaworks]

Ktec owner crying over potential monies saved.


?

 

[Greeny.]

Haha! I’ve had all sorts of kits over the years on various cars mate, including the pikey ktec style job, but have bought 2 or 3 ktec kits new in total I think as you know the only reason I like the ktec is due to the single piece of silicon and that it’s reinforced, the filter could be whatever tbh as long it’s fairly large!

 

[imprezaworks]

Yeah they really need to spread the joy to others ref the complete pipe.

 

[Greeny.]

Surely that’s patented, it’s the only reason to buy it lol

 

[imprezaworks]

Most definitely.

 

[lancecup]

Sorry to hijack but i didn't think it was worth starting a thread for, does anyone know what size torx bit i need to change a panel filter on a standard air box?

 

[RIC172]

Sorry to hijack but i didn't think it was worth starting a thread for, does anyone know what size torx bit i need to change a panel filter on a standard air box?

T30 I think

 

[lancecup]

T30 I think

Thanks mate! I have never had a car that needed torx before. They look like a right nightmare half are rounded already lol

 

[Pricey98]

Thanks mate! I have never had a car that needed torx before. They look like a right nightmare half are rounded already lol

May be easier to take the airbox out the far first. Replace the bolts with stainless allen head ones, M6 I think.

 

[imprezaworks]

Got these for my Airbox, assume they are will fit

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00SN3LLT0/?tag=cliospnet01-21

 

[Pricey98]

Got these for my Airbox, assume they are will fit

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00SN3LLT0/?tag=cliospnet01-21

Can't open the link for some reason, but from memory I think I got some M6 bolts off ebay. Didn't use them in the end as went down the induction kit route ?

 

[imprezaworks]

 

[Pricey98]

Look the same as the ones I got, albeit mine were stainless.

 

[lancecup]

May be easier to take the airbox out the far first. Replace the bolts with stainless allen head ones, M6 I think.

Nice the air box is already out I’m replacing the crappy induction kit that came with the car

 

[Iceberger]

Which other air filters do people use? I have a Ramair but I’m not impressed at the amount of dirt that gets let through it to the throttle body over 6 months or so.
Is a cotton gauze filter a better idea?

 

[imprezaworks]

https://www.knfilters.co.uk/search/product.aspx?prod=rg-1001wt-l

I use this, sounds good. Not had it long so can't comment on dirt

 

[Iceberger]

https://www.knfilters.co.uk/search/product.aspx?prod=rg-1001wt-l

I use this, sounds good. Not had it long so can't comment on dirt

That looks good. Does it sound better than a Ramair?

 

[imprezaworks]

Yeah I would say so.

What exhaust setup have you got?

 

[Iceberger]

Yeah I would say so.

What exhaust setup have you got?

It's a catback with custom mid and rear section (not recessed). Not too loud, so you can the induction noise with the current Ramair

 

[imprezaworks]

Nice. Try the one i posted, delivery is spot on too.

 

[Iceberger]

Nice. Try the one i posted, delivery is spot on too.

I'll give the K&N a go thanks. Have you noticed any dirt getting past it, and making the throttle body butterfly dirty?

 

[Simon998]

Show him how snug it fits imprezaworks

 

[imprezaworks]

 

[Simon998]

You’ve loads more room than me :/

 

[imprezaworks]

You got the standard size battery? And i assume you have moved it back further?

 

[Iceberger]

Blimey, that's very snug. Looks like a really good filter though

 

[imprezaworks]

Worth a try at 33

 

[Pricey98]

Slightly off topic (although it still involves induction kits). I've got a ktec kit fitted and have a Marc B battery cover to go on. Other than aesthetics, does the cover do much in terms of preventing heat soak and does does it alter the sound of the kit at all?

 

[imprezaworks]

I would say not really to both.

 

[Greeny.]

Size wise how does this compare the Ktec Ramair? Shame K&N didnt make it look like every other K&N filter, looks more like a £10 ebay jobbie Tempted to get one though as I had alot of dust come through my Ramair, even though ive properly oiled it now :/

 

[imprezaworks]

The last filter (Ramair JS 105) I would say on par size wise.

 

[Simon998]

You can get it in the standard k&n red too, I just fancied the white one.

Yeah I’ve a standard battery and it’s back as far as it would go.

 

[imprezaworks]

Think I have the slightly smaller battery.

 

[The Fatty]

Ktec induction kit is fine and gives gains when coupled with other breathing mods, matched inlets for example. The kit people call fatty for some reason is just the pikey version of the ktec kit for a fraction of the cost, fine if all you want is abit of noise though as ultimately both won’t do a lot

I guess they call it that because I am the one who did the tests regarding air temps (thread on here somewhere), created the solution based on those results and then shred the idea on here they should have called it 'FI' sounds better and shorter to type haha - "you could try the Fi setup..."

IMO my approach with the alloy bend looks loads better than the ktec version, and as you say - at a fraction of the cost. I mean, just look at it in that second pic...

The gains from this sort of setup are more noticeable with a decat installed + remap. Obviously with the car mapped around the OE airbox, it wont make much difference. The cat restricts the airflow so much, so you wont see the benefits of an better flowing air filter on the input until you remove the bottleneck on the output.

I wish I didn't sell her

 

[imprezaworks]

How's things?

 

[The Fatty]

How's things?

Not too bad thanks. been playing with my A5...