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Quik Engine tune How-to



  FRST and 106 GTi


Just found this. It was posted by a good friend of mine. Thanks Mad16v.



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Introduction
The predominant factor with building or modifying either a racecar or a performance car is to remember that even trivial alterations all add up in the end. Basically, even a few horsepower gained or a couple of kilos lost here and there all add up towards the complete end performance package. When dealing with any area of vehicle modifying, there are always trade-offs to contend with, whether these are cost, practicality, comfort, speed, power, braking or acceleration. Before any modifications are done to the vehicle, it is worth contemplating how far you want to go with the tuning. The weekend-warrior drivers often spend hundreds (and sometimes thousands) of pounds uprating their cars to some amazing specification, and yet only drive up and down the high street! However, all tuning considerations all boil down to one (and only) one factor: the driver. No matter how well the suspension has been setup, no matter how grippy the tyres are, no matter how good the brakes are; if the driver cannot control the vehicle confidently, effectively, and carefully in a variety of conditions and circumstances, all the performance upgrades have no relevance whatsoever. Just because you have a driving license doesnt mean youre a good driver!

A quick note on theoretical horsepower. If the manufacturer of your car quotes a horsepower figure of (say) 100 BHP net, dont expect the figure to be accurate on your own car. That 100BHP is based on a tightly-built manufacturer sample engine, tested on a bench, with no power steering pump, air con, catalytic converter, alternator, or any other power-sapping item.
A worst-case (but typical) baseline for power losses would be:
mechanical losses for auxiliary engine items will be around 2%,
losses in the manual gearbox will be 6%,
mechanical losses in the differential system around 4%,
losses in the axles & driveshafts approx. 5%,
...and youll lose around 10% through clutch slip.

27% loss from flywheel to road wheels is a worst-case figure, but common. It sounds terrible, but just shows how important it is when building a performance car to try and minimise these losses by using quality components and making sure they are fitted to the car by an experienced mechanic or engineer.

Engine
The engine is the heart of any vehicle, and is usually the first area of the car to be attended to. There are so many areas of the engine to be considered for modification that I have listed what I consider to be the really important or effective ones. Obviously, youve also got to equip the car with sufficient brakes to match any power enhancements!

1. Induction . Getting as much cool air into the engine as possible is one of the first things to consider when engine modifying. The colder the air, the more dense it becomes, and thus you are getting more air into the engine per cubic foot, hence the reason why turbochargers and superchargers are so effective. There are numerous kits available that replace the cars standard air filter system with a more effective radial filter or similar. Popular manufacturers of aftermarket air induction kits or replacement sports air filters are K&N and Pipercross. A decent radial filter releases a couple of horsepower and slightly changes the engines response; usually shifting power very slightly up the rev range (in my experience). They also give a lovely induction roar, especially when the needle is heading towards the redline!

Uprating or fitting an intercooler on a turbocharged engine is an excellent quick-gain modification, as the intercooler cools the air charge further than standard when going into the inlet plenum. Many turbo-equipped car owners dont usually bother with either fitting or uprating the intercooler; surprising, really, considering the power gain it produces. An example of the power gain through fitting an intercooler is the modern Peugeot diesel engine. It puts out 90BHP as standard, or 110BHP when equipped with an intercooler.

Another popular induction modification is to fit throttle bodies instead of the normal air intake system. TBs are like mini carburetor bodies and are very popular with professional engine modifiers and tuners as the intake trumpets can be tuned to allow large (and correct) quantities of air into the engine.

2. Fuelling . Its pointless having an engine that can suck great cubic feet of air in if you cant get enough fuel into the beast. Most racing or modified cars have uprated fuel pumps (sometimes two or more), bigger carburetors or injectors, or some sort of fuel pressure boosting facility. Fitting uprated injectors or bolting-on bigger carbs is a black art unless you know what you are doing. You will need a rolling road session to make sure everything is set up correctly, as well as having an engine management system that can be modified. Massive carbs suck like crazy (in the proper sense of the word), and are great for quick horsepower gains, but drink fuel with equal gusto.

3. Timing . The optimum time for the fuel & air mixture to be burnt inside the cylinder varies with engine speed and load and is dependent on numerous factors and conditions. Most Engine Management Systems handle the ignition timing these days by taking several variables into account (crank angle, load, etc) from sensors mounted around the engine. Older cars with mechanical distributors can have electronic ignition systems retro-fitted for around £100 and are very simple to fit. The contact breaker points ignition system can be hellishly unreliable, with problems like points scatter, points bounce, as well as progressive timing changes due to general physical wear and tear.

4. Exhaust . Expelling the waste gases from the engine efficiently can be helped greatly by ditching the standard system and replacing it with a free-flow performance exhaust system. There are kits available to build your own custom exhaust system, but unless you know the ins and outs of how exhaust gases behave (wave fronts, back pressure, velocities at various temperatures, etc), youre better off buying an off-the-shelf performance system. One thing I have found is that the bigger the exhaust, the more power is lost lower down the rev range, even if a few horses are gained towards the redline. This has to be considered, as it is down to the characteristics of the engine whether or not you are going to see a comfortable increase in either power or drivability afterwards.

5. Flywheel . Having the flywheel lightened causes the engine to accelerate and decelerate quicker than the standard flywheel. Although quite expensive (£100-£300 depending on the car and/or machine shop), it is an excellent modification for performance tuning, although it has two drawbacks: the engine will not idle smoothly, and cars with lightened flywheels tend to loose momentum quicker (like when traveling up gradients) than those with the standard flywheel. This is because the heavier flywheel retains the rotating energy better due to its larger weight.

6.Clutch. If youve uprated the engine considerably, one of the first components of the car to fail will be the clutch, as itll take more hammering than usual from the engine. An uprated clutch from a reputable company is a worthwhile purchase if you intend keeping the car for any sensible length of time. Its not a fun modification, as it wont necessarily make you go any faster, but youll get more feel through the clutch pedal, and the clutch will probably last a hell of a lot longer than the standard one. Most standard clutches can take up to 25% more power going through them before they give up the ghost, so isnt really worth doing if youre just fitting an air filter and free-flow exhaust.

7. Camshaft. Replacing the standard camshaft(s) with a performance one is a relatively expensive modification, but gives instant massive horsepower gains, depending on the engine/head and type of camshaft bought. Dont go too mad on the specification of the cam if you still intend the car to be drivable at (legal) road speeds, as some camshafts can have a negative effect on engine power at low revs. The characteristics of some of the hotter camshafts may also widen, narrow, or raise your engines powerband . For example, the Piper Group A Race cam gives a powerband of 4000 to 8000 rpm; pretty useless if your crank bends or pistons break up at 7000 rpm (if you can rev that high before the rev limiter kicks in). Know your engines true maximum rpm (rather than relying on the redline) before everything breaks up. Pick a camshaft that gives a decent response within that tolerance, unless youve already upgraded the pistons, crank, rods, etc, to higher specification items, and had the rev limiter reset.

8. Compression ratio. A relatively cheap way of getting more power from an engine is to increase the compression ratio. This is usually either done by skimming a tiny amount of metal from the cylinder head or fitting a thinner head gasket. While the gains are relatively small, having a skimmed head is a good start towards total cylinder head modification. Depending on your crank and pistons setup, the compression ratio can be increased gradually over time; dont be tempted to go mad and up your compression ratio from 10:1 to something like 12:1 as your pistons/rods/crank may break up under the increased pressure.

9.Ignition coil. Usually not even considered. All decent tuning parts suppliers stock a range of uprated ignition coils that give a consistent, clean and powerful spark to the plugs. Pretty essential, as all the extra fuel and air being dumped into the cylinders need a bigger spark to ignite this mixture.

10. Cylinder head. Cylinder heads on engines can be modified to allow the air to move smoothly through. There are three type of cylinder head modification:
Gas flowing - where the chambers of the head are smoothed and cut back to allow the moving air within the head to be less turbulent, and thus moves faster in or out.
Porting - where the inlet and exhaust ports are enlarged to increase the airflow.
Skimming - to increase the compression ratio (as mentioned in point 8 of this topic).

If youre serious about engine modifying, the cylinder head is probably one of the first places you should start with. Many engineering and tuning companies offer head modifying services, and this can be done a bit at a time (as money allows). You will often see companies offering modified cylinder heads for sale on an exchange basis. This works by sending them your existing head and money in return for a new or custom head. If you do not send the company your head for exchange, you may incur a financial penalty.

Cylinder heads are often sold in stages or levels of tune. A Stage 1 head may have some porting done, whilst a Stage 5 head will have had the full works done to it. Obviously, as you go up the stages, the costs increase.

11.Spark plugs. The standard spark plugs in the engine are perfectly suitable for normal day to day driving. However, there are performance spark plugs available that will enhance the ignition spark and give more efficient combustion, especially when coupled with an uprated ignition coil. These plugs are a damn sight more expensive than your standard ones, but the majority come with a 100000 mile or even lifetime guarantee. A popular performance spark plug manufacturer is Splitfire - they are fairly expensive for a set, but give you a couple of horsepower (proved many times on rolling roads) and a lifetime guarantee. A nice fit-and-forget modification.

12. Oil cooler. It is quite rare for a performance car not to have an oil cooler fitted to the engines lubrication system as standard. When the oil reaches a certain temperature, it becomes thinner than usual and as such ceases to be effective. If allowed to reach high temperatures its ability to lubricate the engines internal moving parts is compromised and the engine is more vulnerable to damage. The oil cooler addresses this problem by exposing the hot oil to cool air (the same principal as the main water cooling system) to help prevent the oil from thinning too much. The oil cooler or oil radiator is normally fitted towards the front of the vehicle near the water radiator.

13. Adjustable alloy camshaft pulley . Not an essential item, but enables easy and accurate adjustment to the camshaft timing. Once fitted, the pulley can be loosened and rotated several degrees in either direction so that the timing of the valves opening and closing can be controlled to suit the conditions needed for the car. Not dissimilar to adjusting ignition timing, the pulley allows the engines power band to be moved up or down the rev range according to the drivers driving style or road/race conditions. This can be very useful when trying to get a road car to pass the emission test of the MOT, especially when the engine has been fitted with a hotter camshaft.

14. Computer. Modern cars have a rev limiter set at roughly 1000 rpm into the redline, so this may need resetting if you have built the engine to rev higher than standard. The majority of modern Engine Management Systems can be uprated by simply changing the mapping chip (also known as chipping). This alters the engines response by changing the ignition timing, injector timing, and injector duration to levels better suited for the engine. There are two popular companies which sell and install uprated ECU s; Superchips (who claim reasonable power increases after their chip has been fitted), and Starchips (a budget version, and as such, doesnt offer as much of a power increase as the Superchips ECU). Power gains are larger for turbocharged cars than their normally aspirated cousins after being chipped, with increases in BHP around 15% to 30%.

There are re-mappable Engine Management Systems available that allow the tuner to adjust the characteristics of the engine according to usage or levels of tune. This is popular with the Lotus Seven Replica group at the moment, as the re-mappable system allows the user to connect a laptop computer to the car and directly download a map of engine operating parameters to ensure the car runs as close to perfect as they can get.
Quik way of geting the ideas in place.
 


Dont mean to be rude to who wrote this, but:-

27% transmission loss, thats highly questionable. Does this guy read CCC? if not maybe he should, also he might enjoy the Bosch Automotive Handbook and Dave Walkers Haynes manual on EMSs.
 


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Another popular induction modification is to fit throttle bodies instead of the normal air intake system. TBs are like mini carburetor bodies and are very popular with professional engine modifiers and tuners as the intake trumpets can be tuned to allow large (and correct) quantities of air into the engine.

What!!!??....all injection cars use a TB!! ok, so hes talking about 1 choke per cylinder here. Also, what he on about? mini carbs? they are the same size, built so they can fit on DCOE manifolds. Trumpets are used for tunned lengths....and to control crosssection changes. An engine will suck in whatever air it can get depending on capacity, cam profile and cylinder head design.....


2. Fuelling . Its pointless having an engine that can suck great cubic feet of air in if you cant get enough fuel into the beast. Most racing or modified cars have uprated fuel pumps (sometimes two or more), bigger carburetors or injectors, or some sort of fuel pressure boosting facility. Fitting uprated injectors or bolting-on bigger carbs is a black art unless you know what you are doing. You will need a rolling road session to make sure everything is set up correctly, as well as having an engine management system that can be modified. Massive carbs suck like crazy (in the proper sense of the word), and are great for quick horsepower gains, but drink fuel with equal gusto.

Um, black art!! its common knowlegde within tunners and enthusiasts how to FIT bigger injectors or correctly jet carbs.....eh..what he talking about?

Also, a carb provides more power cause it presents less of a restriction to inlet and thus the engine can process more air..which need an equal amount of fuel added....hence big gain in power need a big increase in fuel useage~~~eh~?? again.


9.Ignition coil. Usually not even considered. All decent tuning parts suppliers stock a range of uprated ignition coils that give a consistent, clean and powerful spark to the plugs. Pretty essential, as all the extra fuel and air being dumped into the cylinders need a bigger spark to ignite this mixture.
LMFAO! can you get a dirty spark!?

And a highly compressed mixture is more volatile, and EASIER to ignite, wether the plug runs at that temp and pressure is nother matter.


11.Spark plugs. The standard spark plugs in the engine are perfectly suitable for normal day to day driving. However, there are performance spark plugs available that will enhance the ignition spark and give more efficient combustion, especially when coupled with an uprated ignition coil. These plugs are a damn sight more expensive than your standard ones, but the majority come with a 100000 mile or even lifetime guarantee. A popular performance spark plug manufacturer is Splitfire - they are fairly expensive for a set, but give you a couple of horsepower (proved many times on rolling roads) and a lifetime guarantee. A nice fit-and-forget modification.

Sorry i cant stop laughing!

A spark plug will not change the burn process or efficiency, that is down to fuel type & combustion chamber design! hahaha!

Also, final point, he quoted Splitfire which are awful plugs. The are pants and will not give you any gain in power. You can only find power if it was lost through the use of the wrong plug in teh first place! and finally....lifetime gaurantee?! does that means it gauranteed till the plugs break...hence you cant get teh gaurantee LOL!






Chavy..i know youll pick up on this..but hey, its common physics!

again......ROFLMBFSAO!
 


oops, didnt mean to be rude, but it ended up sounding rude.....

did he give this to people to follow?
 


Go Ben!!!! a man in the know!!:)

Dont mean to offend, but this sound like the advice/ramblings of a Max Power/Revs reader, and not a CCC/etc reader.
 


sounds like a guy whos newly converted and been studying his ass off, but still has traces of Maxpower in his blood!

CCC..good man! my bible, i met dave a few months ago..and honestly he a brill bloke, bit dry tho.

Also, you should get practical classics as its really really useful and race car engineering from the states......but thats a bit techy....especially the readers letters LOL!
 
  FRST and 106 GTi


dont know who wrote this, but its supose not to be 100% correct. Its just a quik brief how-to. Some ppl dont even get the idea how to search for some extra horse power.

I also see and agree that there are some bizarre lines, but just because Ive tried them. The worst one is about spark plugs. The lifetime guarantee I guess its true... if you dont use them even once. :)
 


the only thing you need to know about more power from any engine is...................MORE AIR!

the more air an engine can process, the more fuel you can add to extract teh energy from the fuel...simple eh..

so anything you can do to increase the amount of air that passes through the motor a min will give more power. Simple things such as more rpm, larger capacity, less restrictive ports, inlet, cam profile, larger inlet valves, etc etc etc......
 
  Skoda Fabia vRS


Splitfire plugs are some dodgy american brand with bits of platinum stuck on them, there called Auto....somethin
 


CCC rocks!!! Will have a look at the other two, cheers.

BUTRE I realise its only a brief guide, but even brief guides should at least be correct, like Ben says the key to more power is more air. A really REALLY good sight to read is http://www.pumaracing.comwww.pumaracing.com
 


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For example, the Piper Group A Race cam gives a powerband of 4000 to 8000 rpm; pretty useless if your crank bends or pistons break up at 7000 rpm (if you can rev that high before the rev limiter kicks in).





This is what I mean by Max Power/Revs nonsense, all these names for cams are just buzz words and most camshaft profiles are based on 30 year old ideas. Even quoting a cams duration like 270 or 320 doesnt tell you what each cam does, cams have two figures a BTDC/ABDC for inlet and ATDC/BBDC for exhaust, you add these together and add 180 to get duration, you add the BTDC of inlet and ATDC of exhaust to get overlap, but seeing as you can alter the timing with the pullys this can change. Piper, Kent and the like just package em up with all the sales rubbish to appeal to Nova/Saxo drivers and the like.
 
  FRST and 106 GTi


hum... it seems that I look like a criminal.

cliosport.net adm... delete this topic please.
 


Quote: Originally posted by SimonNOS on 26 September 2002


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This is what I mean by Max Power/Revs nonsense, all these names for cams are just buzz words and most camshaft profiles are based on 30 year old ideas. Even quoting a cams duration like 270 or 320 doesnt tell you what each cam does, cams have two figures a BTDC/ABDC for inlet and ATDC/BBDC for exhaust, you add these together and add 180 to get duration, you add the BTDC of inlet and ATDC of exhaust to get overlap, but seeing as you can alter the timing with the pullys this can change. Piper, Kent and the like just package em up with all the sales rubbish to appeal to Nova/Saxo drivers and the like.






HOLY COW SI!!!!

you have been studying like a studying thing! top job!

no..BUTRE....NTW, how do you pronounce this? is it spanish or from portugal?

anyway, dont think like that, it was very good of you to bring it up. This way, we all learn more through talking about the correct and incorrect factors in EVERYBODYS thoughts.

I get stuff wrong all teh time, so does Simon and invariably Capt. does aswell....but hes usually wrong about how long to cook an egg before it goes hard.(y)
 


Since we are being picky lol....

This is what I mean by Max Power/Revs nonsense, all these names for cams are just buzz words and most camshaft profiles are based on 30 year old ideas. Even quoting a cams duration like 270 or 320 doesnt tell you what each cam does, cams have two figures a BTDC/ABDC for inlet and ATDC/BBDC for exhaust, (that IS the duration ie - opening start to closing finish - wherever it starts from is irelevent) you add these together and add 180 to get duration, you add the BTDC of inlet and ATDC of exhaust to get overlap, but seeing as you can alter the timing with the pullys this can change. Piper, Kent and the like just package em up with all the sales rubbish to appeal to Nova/Saxo drivers and the like.

The duration IS important, but qouted max durations mean nothing.. nada... what you need to know is duration at a given minimum lift.. ie - 1.25mm or 50 thou. that will also give you an indication of ramp speed if compared to timing duration. only this way can you caclulater ACTUAL overlap, and if you are using a twincam engine, then it is variable, on a single cam engine you cannot alter the cam phase to control overlap at all, only the overall timing which is not the way to go.. so effectively the overlap is fixed on a single cam design.

Justt hought I would add that...



btw, I commend the writer of the guide for having a go.. but there are many misconceptions in the text and it is not accurate.



j.
 


Capt.

Is there a fixed industrial standard minimum lift that cam makers have to use for the duration. I mean the duration tells you how long the valve is open in degrees of crankshaft revolutions, but if one manufactor counts 1.25mm as open and another uses 1.5mm then they could be the same cam profile but will give different duration figures. None of them seem to quote the figures they use.
 
  BMW 320d Sport


Its only meant to be a brief guide for beginners then people cane it cos they know more about engine tuning! Lighten up! Everyones gotta start somewhere. IMHO its pretty good as a brief tuning guide, the only thing in there that glaringly seems wrong is the Splitfire thing. All the other criticisms are just being pedantic. Sure we could all write pages and pages on just *one* of the paragraphs from the guide and get it perfectly accurate. But whod want to read it if they had just a passing interest in engine tuning?

Ben you are right on one thing though, engine tuning can be summed up as the quest to get more air into the engine.
 


Were not ripping it to bits, but there are some bits that are just plain wrong, like the part about the extra air/feul needing a bigger spark to light it. It is good to write tuning guides that dont go into too much detail, but you gotta get the basics right.
 


Must totally disagree Nick, if its gonna be posted as an actual guide.. it should be accurate.. the generalisations made such as..

...and youll lose around 10% through clutch slip.

A decent radial filter releases a couple of horsepower and slightly changes the engines response;


as the intake trumpets can be tuned to allow large (and correct) quantities of air into the engine.

Massive carbs suck like crazy (in the proper sense of the word), and are great for quick horsepower gains, but drink fuel with equal gusto.


4. Exhaust . Expelling the waste gases from the engine efficiently can be helped greatly by ditching the standard system and replacing it with a free-flow performance exhaust system

Camshaft. Replacing the standard camshaft(s) with a performance one is a relatively expensive modification, but gives instant massive horsepower gains


the extra fuel and air being dumped into the cylinders need a bigger spark to ignite this mixture.

Gas flowing - where the chambers of the head are smoothed and cut back to allow the moving air within the head to be less turbulent, and thus moves faster in or out.
Porting - where the inlet and exhaust ports are enlarged to increase the airflow.

Not dissimilar to adjusting ignition timing, the pulley allows the engines power band to be moved up or down the rev range according to the drivers driving style or road/race conditions

If you only see the splitfire thing as blatently wrong, then you are as guilty as many others in accepting sweeping statements like the above as being accurate.. they are not !. If thats being pedantic, then you are being mighty gullible;)

its this sort of total crap that keeps 2 bit tuning companies in business and is poropgated around the emptynet...

If its gonna be a guide, its gotta be at least accurate..

Perhaps then people will ACTUALLY achieve the power levels and times they seek ......................

there is one good thing though.. he didnt mention the ecotek scam as being a performance enhancer.. lol.



j.






Simon, unfortuantely there is no std, thats the problem... Crane Cams for example.. do quote measured figures..
 


agree.....were not really ripping the sh*t were adding and correcting. Your a teacher, you correct the students when theyre wrong dont you. You would let them say hiter was an american jew from the 70s......

so, we all learn.....which is what its all about!

I dont care is people correct me....as long as its right.....if im corrected, the better for me to know the RIGHT and accurate answer then dribble on nonsense........im only 20 so havea lot to learn......ALOT
 
  BMW 320d Sport


OK Im GUILTY then...it seems pretty obvious to me that if anyone were seriously contemplating say a change to four throttle bodies as a means of gaining power then I doubt theyd look in this guide then just go for it. Surely somewhere along the line they would be likely to bump into or talk to someone who actually knew the ins and outs of a throttle body conversion and could clue them in? Whether it be a book on engine tuning, a mate whos done the same job, a mechanic, a website, the tb manufacturer, whatever.

The purpose of this guide, obvious by its very brevity, is not to be the be all and end all of tuning. Its to give a rough overview of the whole tuning field.
 


Nick,

No ones saying its ment to be the absolute be all, end all of tuning guides, but simply that it is factually correct.
 
  williams and trophy


sorry but mini carbs..... yes

anyone ever heard of using amal carbs?

a popular choice for the 8 port minis

jon
 


Quote: Originally posted by 2 live on 29 September 2002


sorry but mini carbs..... yes

anyone ever heard of using amal carbs?

a popular choice for the 8 port minis

jon


sorry mate, im a bit lost.......was the small car mention from the original post?

the 8 port mini heads were ace! but they ran on twin 40s didnt they? not really small carbs......although smallest of the DCOEs. but if that what you were talking about..ignore me..lOL
 
  FRST and 106 GTi


woooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww

go easy on this one people!!! unload and down your guns. Does anyone play quake? eheh

Just found this out from a post of a good friend of mine. Here in Portugal is REALLY hard to know how to tune an engine. So, any info gathered even when wrong is studied throught hell so we, cars and auto-mechanics lovers, can know a little more of this art.

why dont you people just post more acurate ideas about engine tune instead of just LOLing everything and picking even at the color the block is painted.

Just want my car to go one day sonic boom. :)
 
  williams and trophy


ben r mate amal carbs are actually motorbike carbs.....

yes the arden 8 ports were run by a mixture of both amal an weber carbs but the majority were by amals... due to room more than anything..... well in other words u couldnt fit the webers under the standard bonnet but with the amals u can

cheers

jon
 
  williams and trophy


What!!!??....all injection cars use a TB!! ok, so hes talking about 1 choke per cylinder here. Also, what he on about? mini carbs? they are the same size, built so they can fit on DCOE manifolds. Trumpets are used for tunned lengths....and to control crosssection changes. An engine will suck in whatever air it can get depending on capacity, cam profile and cylinder head design.....

ben this is what i was replying to mate
 


oh soz mate!

my mistake, you should o ignored me! LOL
i was thinkming that your amal was a mis type for small LOL......i always retype stuff wrong.

anyway, never heard of amal, made by who?

would seem a simple solution....but i hvae only see 8 ports with twin 40s inder the hood....and not clubmans either.....strange

Cheers!
 


BUTRE,

CCC is Cars and Car Conversions, a very good monthly mag. Loads of articles on tuning, reviews of products, articles on race/hillclimbing/drag/etc cars amoungst other stuff.
 
  FRST and 106 GTi


I have a friend who colects them... he got CCC by snail-mail delivery from uk.

In here we dont have anyone selling that mag, which is the best mag Ive seen till now.

Just heard about some small shop that might sell them... its 20km from here :( its worth to check it out. :)
 


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