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These days, 5 grand buys an e70 X5 3.0SD ...



Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
@Sir_Dave great work with this so far, what does what you’re changing now do for you? I.e what’s broken?

Its been struggling to start below 3oC occasionally as the glow plug controller is dead (INPA says all 6 glow plugs are gone, which is the usual sign of failure), plus when it does get going, it chuggs out a decent amount of blue smoke, so it needed doing really. Probably not essential as we are now going into warmer weather, but doing it over winter when its freezing cold is a definite no! Whilst its all apart, i thought i might as well remove the swirl flaps (if still fitted) and renew all of the inlet manifold gaskets.
 

Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
£99 limit at Shell = :rolleyes:
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Anyways, time for some tinkering.
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Top to bottom = Combox (new part), MULF HI & TCU (replaced parts)
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Bit of coding in NCSExpert, slightly different to the e90, so a bit of trial & error required.
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Combox gives text message display/read aloud on the screen, plus bluetooth audio and album art via iPhone lightning connector.
It just makes it all a bit more modern, instead of the BBC Ceefax style display of the original CCC system.
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Please excuse the screen, the anti-glare coating is scratched to buggery and needs removing.

List gets shorter, then gets longer again :ROFLMAO: :LOL:

1. Deep clean/hoover interior (to remove child dirt/labrador hair & general grimness) - done, took 2.5 hours!!
2. Purchase Wood Interior Trim - Dark Bamboo currently on its way from Cyrpus (this is a ball ache of a job by the looks of things, not 20 mins like an e9*!)
3. Replace CCC nav faceplate (the disc entry trim bit is damaged) - delivered this morning
4. Replace rear boot button (rubber has perished/keeps falling out the boot) - delivered this morning
5. Replace passenger interior door handle (rubber has gone manky)

6. Replace front "tension struts" and possibly lower control arms (steering wobble when braking at 50+ mph)
7. Change gearbox/transfer box/rear diff oil
8. Flash XHP software onto the gearbox (its simply dimwitted, car feels far slower than it is)
9. Clean/condition the leather interior (its just a bit gross)
10. Replace glow plug controller (Bero GSE102) and fit 33mm swirl flap blanks (if not already removed) - smokes like a chimnet on cold start
11. Change 1 x internal/2 x external cabin filters plus engine air filter

12. Swop front discs/pads as they are clearly warped (might not be tension strut issue)
13. Replace CCC with CIC and replace all necessary interior trims
14. Drain swimming pool from boot and investigate cause of problem
15. Replace MULF HI & TCU with Combox

16. Renew battery - am playing "will it start" roulette far too regularly at the moment.
17. Replace drivers side rear boot light as LED strip failed.
 
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Ah good old M57 Glow Plug module!! you got this sorted yet? Believe it or not you can manage it without removing the inlet etc, i swapped mine out and still got the 6 plugs showing on ista - took the plunge and bought new plugs, and low and behold all 6 were goosed! (Altho euro sent one wrong plug) so will need to actually strip it all again to change one. Worth noting aswell the cable from the starter to the relay is quite common for burning out, i got one from the dealers, was less than £20 for it. Much cheaper than eBay

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Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
Yup, managed to get the glow plug module off in the end, utter pig of a job even with the inlet manifold off!!
Did you manage to do it on an X5 in situ? I know there is far easier access on the e9*/e6* for some reason 🤷‍♂️

In other news, the X5 utterly spanked me today, i knew what was going to be broken when i took it down to BMS Surrey, but i completely forgot to get the parts in advance :rolleyes: cue overnight parts from the local BMW dealer instead of Lemforder parts from Germany. That mistake cost me about £550. Ouch.

Left/right tension struts (front axle/front LCA) 31126773949 & 31126773950, £411.70 (Lemforder £170)
Left/right wishbone, bottom, with rubber mount left (front axle/rear LCA) 31126771893 & 31126771894 £496.80 (Lemforder £190)
Labout to fit the above, plus supplied discs/pads & ensure calipers operating smoothly £234

The car now drives spot on, like at least a million times better ... should have got in done flipping ages ago, but well, i was trying to be tight and do it myself.
However, 14 month old daughter + no garage = no time and no hope. Shiny things however:

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Jobs list is finally reducing!!
1. Deep clean/hoover interior (to remove child dirt/labrador hair & general grimness) - done, took 2.5 hours!!
2. Purchase Wood Interior Trim - Dark Bamboo currently on its way from Cyrpus (this is a ball ache of a job by the looks of things, not 20 mins like an e9*!)
3. Replace CCC nav faceplate (the disc entry trim bit is damaged) - delivered this morning
4. Replace rear boot button (rubber has perished/keeps falling out the boot) - delivered this morning
5. Replace passenger interior door handle (rubber has gone manky)
6. Replace front "tension struts" and possibly lower control arms (steering wobble when braking at 50+ mph)

7. Change gearbox/transfer box/rear diff oil
8. Flash XHP software onto the gearbox (its simply dimwitted, car feels far slower than it is)
9. Clean/condition the leather interior (its just a bit gross)
10. Replace glow plug controller (Bero GSE102) and fit 33mm swirl flap blanks (if not already removed) - smokes like a chimnet on cold start
11. Change 1 x internal/2 x external cabin filters plus engine air filter
12. Swop front discs/pads as they are clearly warped (might not be tension strut issue)
13. Replace CCC with CIC and replace all necessary interior trims
14. Drain swimming pool from boot and investigate cause of problem
15. Replace MULF HI & TCU with Combox
16. Renew battery - am playing "will it start" roulette far too regularly at the moment.

17. Replace drivers side rear boot light as LED strip failed.

Needless to say, todays expenditure has increased the money put into the old sh1tbox. On the flipside, i cant really think of anything that would do the job we need it to do, quite so well as the X5 does it. Loads of space, drives nice, handles fairly well, goes like the clappers for something the size of a house. Done 10k miles in it in 10 months.

£ 5,020.00e70 X5 3.0 SD M Sport
£ 159.90e70 Bamboo wood trim
£ 10.00e70 CCC iDrive front button panel
£ 11.99Boot Lid Tailgate Push-button 51247118158
£ 104.402 x Aerosus rear airbags
£ 154.54CIC & Combox Retrofit
£ 31.9933mm Swirl flap blanks & gaskets
£ 9.04Bosch Internal cabin filter 64316945596
£ 24.72Bosch External cabin filters 64119248294
£ 60.37Beru GSE102 glow plug controller 12217801201
£ 18.10Bosch air filter 13717798342
£ 96.232 x Mintex front discs & Textar brake pads
-£ 28.82Sell e70 silver interior trim
£ 81.29DEPO O/S inner rear light cluster, gasket & bulb
£ 29.65F/R Bosch Wipers (A937S & A380H)
£ 96.31019 Varta Silver Dynamic Car Battery 12V 100Ah
£ 1,142.50Fitment of front discs/pads, supply & fit f/r LCA's
£ 7,022.21TOTAL
 

AdDaMan

ClioSport Club Member
Jesus, wish my discs and pads were that cheap. It's a good £400 for the front of mine and some idiot put cheap ones on there last time and they just warp in seconds. Has to be ATE.
 

Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
Looking good @Sir_Dave I'm considering XHP for my E60 when I pick it up
Its very good, want to service the box on this before uploading it however. So wallet needs to recover a little first 😂
Jesus, wish my discs and pads were that cheap. It's a good £400 for the front of mine and some idiot put cheap ones on there last time and they just warp in seconds. Has to be ATE.
They're normally about £300 i think, ECP messed up the pricing and i swopped it with a discount code on top lol.
 

Cookson

ClioSport Club Member
  Mk1 Audi TT 3.2 V6
Its very good, want to service the box on this before uploading it however. So wallet needs to recover a little first 😂

They're normally about £300 i think, ECP messed up the pricing and i swopped it with a discount code on top lol.

I can help your wallet by offering to pay for your excellent coding skills, lol.
 

Paul.M

ClioSport Club Member
You guys that are running diagnostics where are you getting your copies of ista/whatever you are using from? I have a cable on the way but would rather get a copy of the software from somewhere reccomended.

On a side note, love your DIY work Dave!
 

Paul.M

ClioSport Club Member
Perfect, thank you for the heads up!

Got an N57 E91 that has a couple of egr/glow plug issues and the place that recently had a look wasn't the best experience so want to do some reading myself!
 
  Flame Red PH2 172
Yup, managed to get the glow plug module off in the end, utter pig of a job even with the inlet manifold off!!
Did you manage to do it on an X5 in situ? I know there is far easier access on the e9*/e6* for some reason 🤷‍♂️

In other news, the X5 utterly spanked me today, i knew what was going to be broken when i took it down to BMS Surrey, but i completely forgot to get the parts in advance :rolleyes: cue overnight parts from the local BMW dealer instead of Lemforder parts from Germany. That mistake cost me about £550. Ouch.

Left/right tension struts (front axle/front LCA) 31126773949 & 31126773950, £411.70 (Lemforder £170)
Left/right wishbone, bottom, with rubber mount left (front axle/rear LCA) 31126771893 & 31126771894 £496.80 (Lemforder £190)
Labout to fit the above, plus supplied discs/pads & ensure calipers operating smoothly £234

The car now drives spot on, like at least a million times better ... should have got in done flipping ages ago, but well, i was trying to be tight and do it myself.
However, 14 month old daughter + no garage = no time and no hope. Shiny things however:

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Jobs list is finally reducing!!
1. Deep clean/hoover interior (to remove child dirt/labrador hair & general grimness) - done, took 2.5 hours!!
2. Purchase Wood Interior Trim - Dark Bamboo currently on its way from Cyrpus (this is a ball ache of a job by the looks of things, not 20 mins like an e9*!)
3. Replace CCC nav faceplate (the disc entry trim bit is damaged) - delivered this morning
4. Replace rear boot button (rubber has perished/keeps falling out the boot) - delivered this morning
5. Replace passenger interior door handle (rubber has gone manky)
6. Replace front "tension struts" and possibly lower control arms (steering wobble when braking at 50+ mph)

7. Change gearbox/transfer box/rear diff oil
8. Flash XHP software onto the gearbox (its simply dimwitted, car feels far slower than it is)
9. Clean/condition the leather interior (its just a bit gross)
10. Replace glow plug controller (Bero GSE102) and fit 33mm swirl flap blanks (if not already removed) - smokes like a chimnet on cold start
11. Change 1 x internal/2 x external cabin filters plus engine air filter
12. Swop front discs/pads as they are clearly warped (might not be tension strut issue)
13. Replace CCC with CIC and replace all necessary interior trims
14. Drain swimming pool from boot and investigate cause of problem
15. Replace MULF HI & TCU with Combox
16. Renew battery - am playing "will it start" roulette far too regularly at the moment.

17. Replace drivers side rear boot light as LED strip failed.

Needless to say, todays expenditure has increased the money put into the old sh1tbox. On the flipside, i cant really think of anything that would do the job we need it to do, quite so well as the X5 does it. Loads of space, drives nice, handles fairly well, goes like the clappers for something the size of a house. Done 10k miles in it in 10 months.

£ 5,020.00e70 X5 3.0 SD M Sport
£ 159.90e70 Bamboo wood trim
£ 10.00e70 CCC iDrive front button panel
£ 11.99Boot Lid Tailgate Push-button 51247118158
£ 104.402 x Aerosus rear airbags
£ 154.54CIC & Combox Retrofit
£ 31.9933mm Swirl flap blanks & gaskets
£ 9.04Bosch Internal cabin filter 64316945596
£ 24.72Bosch External cabin filters 64119248294
£ 60.37Beru GSE102 glow plug controller 12217801201
£ 18.10Bosch air filter 13717798342
£ 96.232 x Mintex front discs & Textar brake pads
-£ 28.82Sell e70 silver interior trim
£ 81.29DEPO O/S inner rear light cluster, gasket & bulb
£ 29.65F/R Bosch Wipers (A937S & A380H)
£ 96.31019 Varta Silver Dynamic Car Battery 12V 100Ah
£ 1,142.50Fitment of front discs/pads, supply & fit f/r LCA's
£ 7,022.21TOTAL
Ah right,

I've never done it on an x5 - Would just assume with it being an even bigger car that it would have more room for getting at it. Least it is done, much better start in the mornings? mine after the 6 glow plugs starts like a dream now.

Also just had to do the crank pulley on mine, could live with no power steering initially on start up. Was proper knackered. Had the pulley sitting from a parts i got (Brand new) so only cost me the price of 2 new belts and 4 crank bolts from BM.
 

Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
Jobs 17 & 18 on the list now done, 19 just added.

1. Deep clean/hoover interior (to remove child dirt/labrador hair & general grimness) - done, took 2.5 hours!!
2. Purchase Wood Interior Trim - Dark Bamboo currently on its way from Cyrpus (this is a ball ache of a job by the looks of things, not 20 mins like an e9*!)
3. Replace CCC nav faceplate (the disc entry trim bit is damaged) - delivered this morning
4. Replace rear boot button (rubber has perished/keeps falling out the boot) - delivered this morning
5. Replace passenger interior door handle (rubber has gone manky)
6. Replace front "tension struts" and possibly lower control arms (steering wobble when braking at 50+ mph)

7. Change gearbox/transfer box/rear diff oil
8. Flash XHP software onto the gearbox (its simply dimwitted, car feels far slower than it is)
9. Clean/condition the leather interior (its just a bit gross)
10. Replace glow plug controller (Bero GSE102) and fit 33mm swirl flap blanks (if not already removed) - smokes like a chimnet on cold start
11. Change 1 x internal/2 x external cabin filters plus engine air filter
12. Swop front discs/pads as they are clearly warped (might not be tension strut issue)
13. Replace CCC with CIC and replace all necessary interior trims
14. Drain swimming pool from boot and investigate cause of problem
15. Replace MULF HI & TCU with Combox
16. Renew battery - am playing "will it start" roulette far too regularly at the moment.
17. Replace drivers side rear boot light as LED strip failed.
18. Replace passenger side D1S low beam xenon bulb

19. Replace passenger windscreen washer nozzle as clip is broken - water is spraying under the bonnet, not on the windscreen.
 

Cookson

ClioSport Club Member
  Mk1 Audi TT 3.2 V6
Did you find out what the issue was with the boot filling with water? My battery compartment was flooded last week, turns out it's those twatty plastic vents to the inner inch

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Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
Fairly eventful week or so for the X5.

Changed the washer nozzle over, tempted to do the other one as well tbh, the difference in spray pattern is incredible!!
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Got it MOT'd, nice pass with no advisories. Tester commented on how good condition it was for so many miles!!
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Then on Tuesday it broke down :ROFLMAO: pottering along the A3, then alternator light is on and bugger me sideways, no PAS.
My god the steering is heavy without any assistance!!!! Pretty sure there should be a belt here ...
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Rescue bus, only took 4 hours this time:
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Thankfully, unlike the Mini, where the aux belt is by the chassis leg, on BMW's its easy peasy. Onto Amazon for some overnight parts form Germany:
Lisle Tool's 59370 Stretch Belt Remover/Installer: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AC60VEC/?tag=cliospnet01-21
Contitech 6PK1893 V-Ribbed Belt (alternator belt): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0068MM1XS/?tag=cliospnet01-21
Contitech 4PK867ELAST Loose Multi-V Belt (aircon belt): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009IZ3FOQ/?tag=cliospnet01-21

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What a mess:
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Proper f*cked:
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Tidy:
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Fixed:
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1. Deep clean/hoover interior (to remove child dirt/labrador hair & general grimness) - done, took 2.5 hours!!
2. Purchase Wood Interior Trim - Dark Bamboo currently on its way from Cyrpus (this is a ball ache of a job by the looks of things, not 20 mins like an e9*!)
3. Replace CCC nav faceplate (the disc entry trim bit is damaged) - delivered this morning
4. Replace rear boot button (rubber has perished/keeps falling out the boot) - delivered this morning
5. Replace passenger interior door handle (rubber has gone manky)
6. Replace front "tension struts" and possibly lower control arms (steering wobble when braking at 50+ mph)

7. Change gearbox/transfer box/rear diff oil
8. Flash XHP software onto the gearbox (its simply dimwitted, car feels far slower than it is)
9. Clean/condition the leather interior (its just a bit gross)
10. Replace glow plug controller (Bero GSE102) and fit 33mm swirl flap blanks (if not already removed) - smokes like a chimnet on cold start
11. Change 1 x internal/2 x external cabin filters plus engine air filter
12. Swop front discs/pads as they are clearly warped (might not be tension strut issue)
13. Replace CCC with CIC and replace all necessary interior trims
14. Drain swimming pool from boot and investigate cause of problem
15. Replace MULF HI & TCU with Combox
16. Renew battery - am playing "will it start" roulette far too regularly at the moment.
17. Replace drivers side rear boot light as LED strip failed.
18. Replace passenger side D1S low beam xenon bulb
19. Replace passenger windscreen washer nozzle as clip is broken - water is spraying under the bonnet, not on the windscreen.
20. Replace alternator/aircon belts
 
  Flame Red PH2 172
Seemed ok when i fitted the new belts thankfully, certainly none of the cracking that ive seen on the US forums. Famous last words no doubt :rolleyes: 🤦‍♂️ :ROFLMAO:
They are just one those things i reclon, i got 145k out the one on mine, certainly Original BM Part that was on it. As long as its the 4 bolt version (Which mine was) easy enough to do as your prob aware
 

Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
Another weekend gone, another day fixing the X5 :ROFLMAO:

Passenger side front brake caliper was sticking on, resulting in lots of rumbling, low mpg even on the motorway & a rather blue disc.

Luckily for me, CP4L had an apparent glitch on their website wereby the discount codes were automatically applied (as per the ECP site), but then you could add the code manually as well. Double discount, so £130 for a refurbed Pagid caliper. Win Win.

Work commences:
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The offending caliper:
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It soon becomes apparent that because the SD/35d using the 50i 2 pot calipers, the pins are 9mm Hex instead of 8mm 🤦‍♂️
Cue a quick trawl around the factors until i find somewhere that sells such a weird size bit. In the end, i have to buy a whole box of them, for £16.80:
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Removed:
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Finished:
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As with everything on older cars, the drivers side rear bleed nipple was stuck fast, so i've only managed to bleed 3 of the calipers, also my pressure bleeder is on its last legs and leaking. Will order a new bleed nipple and pressure bleeder and do the lot again, until then, the peddle is a little soft - although i might just be used to the Mini after not driving this for a bit.

Now on 13 months ownership and the total cost of repairs/modifications sits at an average of £175 a month.
Not particularly cheap, but still considerably less than the monthly depreciation on buying a newer X5 that would need fixing less often!!
 

Waitey

ClioSport Club Member
  Alpina D3, AC Cobra
Its like E36/E46 using a 7mm hex, when all sets go 6mm, 8mm. FFS.
 
  RS4
Timely post.
I picked up one of these as a daily smoker from a trader and it’s an utter money pit. Same spec as yours but without the pan roof.

Transfer case needs oil change due to abit of shaking under load. Disconnected the fuses for it and it drives well.
Fixed the handbrake switch but then broke the handbrake actuator when testing it as it hasn’t been used in so long.
Lost a headlight washer while driving. Now I have two missing

That’s only 2 weeks in🤣🤣🤣. Looks like it’s going on fb marketplace next week to be sold to a Romanian.
 

Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
Timely post.
I picked up one of these as a daily smoker from a trader and it’s an utter money pit. Same spec as yours but without the pan roof.

Transfer case needs oil change due to abit of shaking under load. Disconnected the fuses for it and it drives well.
Fixed the handbrake switch but then broke the handbrake actuator when testing it as it hasn’t been used in so long.
Lost a headlight washer while driving. Now I have two missing

That’s only 2 weeks in🤣🤣🤣. Looks like it’s going on fb marketplace next week to be sold to a Romanian.

I've been tempted, very tempted - and then there was this thread....

Oh, i dont know, for a car with 210k miles on it, it doesnt seem too bad - its all just consumables/things that would need changing on any 2nd hand car so far 🤷‍♂️

Working on its pretty easy as well, everything is massive, front/rear central jacking points and high enough for my big boy jack to just go under without having to drive onto a piece of wood first. Can bleed the brakes/change the oil without having to jack it up as well. Certainly understand why people like Land Rovers now, despite them breaking ALL THE TIME, its a shed load easier than doing anything to to the Mini.

Certainly nothing else for 5 grand that would be as well made (the build quality is immense, no rattles whatsoever), quick(ish), drive as nicely (hydraulic steering ftw), or carry so much stuff around. I'd quite happily have another one if this ever gave up the ghost!! My parents spent £15k on a Kia Sportage recently and whilst its a nice car, new technology etc, the interior just feels so cheap and nasty compared to the X5 - id much rather keep chucking money at this instead of buying one of them :ROFLMAO::rolleyes:
 


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