K20 powered 172

[sonny172cup]

Iv tried all three ways, engine and box out top, box out top, and dropping subframe, all have pros and cons in terms of difficulty ( 1 man job on driveway), if the subframe bolts are loose then i think thats easier, but steering column bolt can be a pain to undo, unless you disconnect steering rack, im gonna drop subframe next week and get box out from bottom, just cant be arsed removing throttle bodies, loom and dropping coolant etc.

My interior loom is trimmed to the bare minimum, only problems I had I managed to trip the immobiliser, dinger came round and put a live feed on one of the headlight connections and it fired up, so mot sure what happened, but I haven't had no running problems so to speak.

Interior loom before it was wrapped.

 

[NorthloopCup]

What size is the front number plate on yours mate?

 

[Chambers_RS]

What size is the front number plate on yours mate?

Sorry mucka didn't see this. It's a stick on plate and it's a 'small' size. The place I ordered do legal size, medium and small iirc. Want me to dig out the item number.

I need another for the rear actually.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Sorry mucka didn't see this. It's a stick on plate and it's a 'small' size. The place I ordered do legal size, medium and small iirc. Want me to dig out the item number.

I need another for the rear actually.

It's alright mate I've seen them on eBay, just wasn't sure what size yours was! The 'small' looks ridiculously small in terms of measurement, but oddly not so much on the pics of it on your car! Lol!

 

[Chambers_RS]

I'll measure when I'm back but it fits the bumper nicely where I've got mine.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Bloody phone. Wifi in Corfu sucks.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Triple post lol

Other news I've brought a few things for the Clio
4pot front brakes with bells and rotors
Lightened billet flywheel off engine dynamics
PMS lightened pulleys and PAS delete kit
Bit concerned the pms pulleys might not be a direct fit with my being a cup model, but too much beer and abut bored sat round a pool, I convinced myself that I could make it work.

Got my new Box to unpack when I'm back as well

 

[NorthloopCup]

Bloody phone. Wifi in Corfu sucks.

What's the weather like! Lol

 

[NorthloopCup]

Triple post lol

Other news I've brought a few things for the Clio
4pot front brakes with bells and rotors
Lightened billet flywheel off engine dynamics
PMS lightened pulleys and PAS delete kit
Bit concerned the pms pulleys might not be a direct fit with my being a cup model, but too much beer and abut bored sat round a pool, I convinced myself that I could make it work.

Got my new Box to unpack when I'm back as well

You should've let me know glyph were looking for pulleys and a flywheel! I guarantee they'd be cheaper than you've paid now.

 

[Chambers_RS]

What's the weather like! Lol

Hot. I'm burnt as f**k lol
Been some lightening and thunder tho over the mountains but still baking lol

 

[Chambers_RS]

You should've let me know glyph were looking for pulleys and a flywheel! I guarantee they'd be cheaper than you've paid now.

Ahh what dam it. I can back out of the flywheel. I've already paid pms. What's the flywheel you can get your hands on? Billet 3kg jobbie?
Valeo clutches are fine for these aren't they?

 

[NorthloopCup]

Ahh what dam it. I can back out of the flywheel. I've already paid pms. What's the flywheel you can get your hands on? Billet 3kg jobbie?
Valeo clutches are fine for these aren't they?

Yeah it's the 2.9kg one I can get mate. £255 delivered. I can get the pulleys like I've got on my engine as well, but sounds like your too late mate.
Yeah standard valeo clutch is fine bud. That's what I'm running.

 

[eon172]

Can I ask, what's the benefit of the lightened flywheel apart from the obvious weight saving? ... Quicker rev response?

Also, same question for replacing the pulleys (I assume this is just the two cam pulleys)?

Cheers

 

[NorthloopCup]

Can I ask, what's the benefit of the lightened flywheel apart from the obvious weight saving? ... Quicker rev response?

Also, same question for replacing the pulleys (I assume this is just the two cam pulleys)?

Cheers

Yeah allows the engine to rev faster mate. Plus by reducing the rotating mass you also improve the hp and engine response.

The pulleys you replace are the crank pulley and water pump pulley mate.

 

[eon172]

Yeah allows the engine to rev faster mate. Plus by reducing the rotating mass you also improve the hp and engine response.

The pulleys you replace are the crank pulley and water pump pulley mate.

Thanks, same reason for changing the water And crank pulley too? I know the crank pulley is heavy, but wouldn't have thought the water pump one was?

 

[NorthloopCup]

Thanks, same reason for changing the water And crank pulley too? I know the crank pulley is heavy, but wouldn't have thought the water pump one was?

Yes mate. The crank pulley is a bit of a grey area as the original has a damper incorporated in the design, but the solid versions don't. My engine has been dynamically balanced so in theory, it shouldn't be an issue.

 

[eon172]

Yes mate. The crank pulley is a bit of a grey area as the original has a damper incorporated in the design, but the solid versions don't. My engine has been dynamically balanced so in theory, it shouldn't be an issue.

Got yer, thanks. I was told in the past that a keyed crank pulley is the way to go, do these aftermarket's have 'em?

 

[NorthloopCup]

Got yer, thanks. I was told in the past that a keyed crank pulley is the way to go, do these aftermarket's have 'em?

No mate the keyed crank pulley is for the cambelt pulley. That sits behind the crank pulley and it's a Megane item that you'd need. They're only needed if your supercharging/turbo conversion.

 

[eon172]

No mate the keyed crank pulley is for the cambelt pulley. That sits behind the crank pulley and it's a Megane item that you'd need. They're only needed if your supercharging/turbo conversion.

Understood, thanks. More to add to the shopping list (flywheel, pulleys).

(Sorry for the thread hijack)

 

[Chambers_RS]

Started the Clio tonight for the first time in about 3 weeks. Started first time considering its on a Varley redtop25 and was all live and connected up, so pretty happy with that.

All I did tonight was remove the drivers seat again, to fitted the VBD x-low frame.
I also dug out my PMS axle bits and RS2 inlet that have been gathering dust, now all I've got to do is get my all parts from work and come up with a plan of action.

Need to order a flywheel from Mark and order some ARP conrod bolts and make a list of other bits required.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Being buying a few things for the clio as the engine will be coming out soon.

And I'm still waiting on my lighten pulley set and ARP conrod bolts.

I did 40 minutes in the garage and whipped off the brakes and shafts ready.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Had 10 minutes in the garage tonight.

295mm bells and rotors, 4pot wilwoods under 15s with no spacers. All tho I need a 5mm spacer for the 205 tyres to clear the coilovers

 

[Chambers_RS]

Finally got some ARP conrod bolts

And started stripping the Clio down late last night

Just waiting on the final piece to the puzzle now

 

[sonny172cup]

Are you happy with bleeding those as there is a certain way.

 

[Chambers_RS]

The 4 pots?

Yeah should be fine, ran CP5200 AP Calipers on my last car. I like big brakes

Won't touch the bottom bleed nipples lol

 

[sonny172cup]

Happy days, if these start to wedge means your getting air in somewhere, top inner then top outer.

When I ran my WW we was looking at making up a bottom pipe linking the 2 nipples to help equalise the pressure, never got round to testing it.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Happy days, if these start to wedge means your getting air in somewhere, top inner then top outer.

When I ran my WW we was looking at making up a bottom pipe linking the 2 nipples to help equalise the pressure, never got round to testing it.

Exactly how I bleed them, I'll use a easibleed as I'll probably be on me own late at night sorting it lol.

I thought the same thing with the bottom set, if I made a pipe it'll give me 4 spare bleed nipples aswell lol.
Can't see a link pipe causing any issues really.

Oh the gear oil for the LSD is the Renault stuff 75W90 semi synthetic stuff?

 

[Martin.]

What an awesome car you've built here, with nothing but top quality parts! Love it.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Exactly how I bleed them, I'll use a easibleed as I'll probably be on me own late at night sorting it lol.

I thought the same thing with the bottom set, if I made a pipe it'll give me 4 spare bleed nipples aswell lol.
Can't see a link pipe causing any issues really.

Oh the gear oil for the LSD is the Renault stuff 75W90 semi synthetic stuff?

Standard gear oil will be fine. As would Fuchs syntran. I'm using redline mtl in mine as it holds up very well to abuse.

 

[Advikaz]

Mega bit of kit you've created there mate.

Nice one.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Mega bit of kit you've created there mate.

Nice one.

Thanks very much

 

[Chambers_RS]

Had today off work so decided to spend it in the garage. Dug out my crane and stand.

Striped the box, clutch and flywheel off and stuck it on the stand

Found a useful pole to keep all the wires off the floor

Old standard diff

New LSD

And the rain stopped as I was finishing up, typical lol

 

[sonny172cup]

Coming on nicely mate

 

[Chambers_RS]

Coming on nicely mate

Thanks mucka, yesterday was plain sailing, today not so much lol
Ran into a round bolt on the water pump, someone's proper had a go at it, failed and left it lol, and rounded conrod bolt which was a massive concern but managed to sort that ok, thankfully.

Box is ready to go back tho

 

[Chambers_RS]

ARP bolts in

Box ready to go on, all PMS mounts torqued up.

Plastic windows stood up well to some awful rain and hale

PMS pulleys arrived, extra pulley's till I can decide what I'm doing with the PAS

Waiting on gear oil now and some bits and bobs from Renault.

 

[Mash.]

Bloody awesome this, just put two and two together clicking on your profile and seeing this car - very good work

 

[Chambers_RS]

Bloody awesome this, just put two and two together clicking on your profile and seeing this car - very good work

Haha, Thanks mucka

 

[Chambers_RS]

Finally my parts from Renault turned up

And some nimbus. I decided to paint the engine whilst it was out and I was waiting for parts. I forgot what a pain in the ass it is to paint engines lol takes for ever.

 

[bashracing]

I've just read the lot,
Great spec, you've done that car proud, well done,

 

[Martin.]

I see PMS have changed the design of their AC delete kit bracket. Looks much stronger now.