Alignment set up - Yes i've used search!

[TRH_Racing]

I can't find anything from the search bar so ill ask here
Im gonna get my geo sorted next month and was wondering what is the sorta base set up i can put it on? Mainly road use, fast road .. and the odd track day over the next couple of months

Ill be getting camber bolts at some point after as well

 

[barnesautos]

Get the bolts fitted first fella , 2 degrees of camber up front Max for road setup id say .

 

[bbracer16v]

Depends on rest of the set up
When I started out I just had a white line rarb set to hard and 40mm lower springs 1degree all round on camber and set to standard tracking chart on the garage wall

Now I got a diff set up I'm still playing with it I would defo camber before anything else is set up as soon as I cambered mine the tracking was well out so needed setting up again.. Front bolts are 20quid rear 1degree plates on ktec site 12quid or so :wink:

(Diff set up as in a PMS rarb 22mm one had it set to hard was oversteer city now dialed it back abit )

 

[TRH_Racing]

Get the bolts fitted first fella , 2 degrees of camber up front Max for road setup id say .

Might have too tbf, my camber is different each sides and its a bit annoying!

Depends on rest of the set up
When I started out I just had a white line rarb set to hard and 40mm lower springs 1degree all round on camber and set to standard tracking chart on the garage wall

Now I got a diff set up I'm still playing with it I would defo camber before anything else is set up as soon as I cambered mine the tracking was well out so needed setting up again.. Front bolts are 20quid rear 1degree plates on ktec site 12quid or so :wink:

I've only got eibach sportlines atm, ARB will be coming sometime

 

[bbracer16v]

I would go 1 degree all round and standard tracking you can get a gauge from eBay it's a sprit level type (£20) and then set up yourself and drive to a local garage for tracking..

Will defo feel more planted when I drive my Mrs I think it's gonna roll sometimes

 

[barnesautos]

Mine has rear 1deg shim and 10mm PMS block spacers and it kicks 2.5deg at the rear , white line fitted also .

 

[TRH_Racing]

Mine has rear 1deg shim and 10mm PMS block spacers and it kicks 2.5deg at the rear , white line fitted also .

How does that feel?
I'm tempted for 1.5 - 2 degree up front and then get .5 camber shims from PMS

 

[barnesautos]

@bbracer16v these clios run 1deg as standard fella .

So when I'm saying 2deg , that's add 1deg to what it's got anyway .
So I'm now thinking your 1deg is pretty much the same figure overall

 

[barnesautos]

 

[TRH_Racing]

Ah fair, i havent looked at my sheet from its ast tracking / wasnt told what it was ment to be, my mates place couldnt undo the bolts to do the camber for some odd reason so it never got done :/

-2 will be alright then, ill give it a go and if its crap ill get it eased back!

So toe wise now, its all gone out of my head since college, ill leave that as stock ?

 

[barnesautos]

 

[TRH_Racing]

spacers and shims?

 

[barnesautos]

Yup spacers and shim

 

[barnesautos]

Ah fair, i havent looked at my sheet from its ast tracking / wasnt told what it was ment to be, my mates place couldnt undo the bolts to do the camber for some odd reason so it never got done :/

-2 will be alright then, ill give it a go and if its crap ill get it eased back!

So toe wise now, its all gone out of my head since college, ill leave that as stock ?

These cars toe out anyway , so a degree is fine

 

[TRH_Racing]

These cars toe out anyway , so a degree is fine

Ill have a look what it is, ill go and get it checked again tomorrow to see whats where

ill leave everything else as is then and change camber!

 

[leedsboy]

I've recently had mine done and went for the following:

Front Camber: -2 degrees
Rear Camber: Standard
Toe F: 10 mins out
Toe R: Standard

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

Without camber bolts/shims you can't adjust anything other than toe.

 

[leedsboy]

Ah yeh, forgot to mention I've got camber bolts on mine.

 

[ADS_V6]

Ah yeh, forgot to mention I've got camber bolts on mine.

Hi noticed much diff on that set up mate?

 

[leedsboy]

Hi noticed much diff on that set up mate?

TBF, I had it done after I'd fitted my coilovers so it was properly all over the place before hand. Handles spot on now though. Think I got the recommendation for this set up from a post @Northlooopcup made.

 

[TRH_Racing]

thanks for the help

 

[charltjr]

A ton of front camber might not be what you want for the road, great for the track though.

What behaviour do you want to change? I wanted better turn-in and front end grip on the track, the trade off is the car is a bit hyperactive on the road and likes to follow cambers/ruts etc much more than before. If it was my daily it would get annoying but as its not I'm happy with it.

No such thing as a free lunch so ask yourself what you want the changes to actually do - that'll inform you of what setup to try. For what it's worth this is my setup, very similar to what's already been posted.

 

[bbracer16v]

@bbracer16v these clios run 1deg as standard fella .
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So when I'm saying 2deg , that's add 1deg to what it's got anyway .
So I'm now thinking your 1deg is pretty much the same figure overall

Yer sorry I knew it was -1 already I added another -1

 

[RS Charlie]

My toe on the car was changed from 2 to .06 out. Previously it was taking off the inside of the tyres. It now has better toe in IMO.

 

[charltjr]

Yeah changing the toe makes a surprisingly big difference. I'm still eating the insides of the tyres but that's camber for you

 

[RS Charlie]

How much camber are you running? Both my RST and my old Focus were lowered 40mm, maybe a little more for the former. With the negative camber put on as a result the tyre wear was still OK with the toe set right.

 

[charltjr]

-2.2, but to be fair I'm also running 888s and it's track wear so really it's not that excessive.

 

[barnesautos]

-2.2, but to be fair I'm also running 888s and it's track wear so really it's not that excessive.

I'm running close to that and just started to notice the inner edges getting low .
I've just spent the last week swapping the tyres over off the wheels as they are directionals . Need to get the max out of them I'd say .

 

[charltjr]

This is how they looked before the most recent track day. They're now definitely not legal but should have another day in them I think. Probably a couple of mm extra wear on the inside of the tyre compared to the outside.