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Cup, the end!
Depends if you want aircon, abs and extra weight or not.
Depends if you want aircon, abs and extra weight or not.
WRX
Just road use : normal 172
Road and a bit of track : either, with perhaps a slight lean towards Cup. Depends how many track days really.
Track only : Cup
But in reality, either are fine for both road and track use. My normal 172's done loads of track days and will be raced properly next year.
Road and a bit of track : either, with perhaps a slight lean towards Cup. Depends how many track days really.
Track only : Cup
But in reality, either are fine for both road and track use. My normal 172's done loads of track days and will be raced properly next year.
In reality the only difference is weight and maybe 2 or 3 extra bhp due to no aircon,
plus a good non cup will perform better than a crap cup.
It's all down to what kind of life it's had.
plus a good non cup will perform better than a crap cup.
It's all down to what kind of life it's had.
As above, if its for road use then a non cup would be the better choice as it has the toys.
If its track then a cup would be my first choice but ive got a non cup which ive used for trackdays.
In reality, theres naff all difference between the range of 172/182s.
If its track then a cup would be my first choice but ive got a non cup which ive used for trackdays.
In reality, theres naff all difference between the range of 172/182s.
Ive found a 2003 non-cup, dark blue, 101k and had the belts done at 70k, has had new rear shocks, just had the brakes done front and rear, new backbox, owned by an enthusiast bt has a new car and needs to sell this. It has full service history too. We have agreed on £800!!!!
But I love the electric blue Cups lol.
What do you think???
But I love the electric blue Cups lol.
What do you think???
If it's got documented service history with proof of belts at 70k,
then £800 is a good price, as long as there isn't a load of hidden problems he isn't telling you.
then £800 is a good price, as long as there isn't a load of hidden problems he isn't telling you.
I paid a hell of a lot more than that for my cup and although I fooking love it I wish I had waited a while longer and for a non cup for a lot less money.
Saying that I love my cup and have made it my own now so all is well lol.
Saying that I love my cup and have made it my own now so all is well lol.
That price is mega cheap imo, hope all is OK with it.
Cup killing season is almost upon us aswel.
172 cup RS2 - 330ci
Why?
Just because they are a bit lighter doesnt mean they are faster..
These engines are all different, some are faster than others!
182 FF
Seats are better in 172 vs cup imo, they are shite on track you just fall out but the standard172/182 leather ones are a loads better
Countryman JCW
I disagree with that. My cup seats are far better than the seats i had in my Ph1 172 and 182. Only downside to the cup seats are they look crap, and have no lumbar support
+1 to everything said above. If its a track car then go for a cup, for everything else get a 172. As ive said before the difference in performance is negligible, especially out on the roads. If its looks your bothered about get a cup spoiler and some turini's.
RB 182 195bhp
Why is no abs stupid? It's only a Clio, not a Ferrari, just don't drive like a tool. Tvr's don't come with abs, they cope and have more than double the bhp. I agree air con is nice, as is leather but it's really not essential.
banther
ClioSport Club Member
As someone who has recently sold their cup;
No discernable advantage day to day. Yeah you save some weight but if youre a porker like me - makes no odds. Save some money and buy the better specc'd cheaper 172. £120 on a cup spoiler and you wont be able to tell the difference.
Lack of ABS can sometimes be erm..... sticky.
No discernable advantage day to day. Yeah you save some weight but if youre a porker like me - makes no odds. Save some money and buy the better specc'd cheaper 172. £120 on a cup spoiler and you wont be able to tell the difference.
Lack of ABS can sometimes be erm..... sticky.
clio 172cup
Depends what your after really ? I'd never had air con so I wernt going to miss that .
I mostly went for the cup because of looks. I wanted a car I was happy with looks wise standard and didn't want to start buying spoilers and alloys etc , been there done that .
Yes it lacks certain things but I don't miss them and I've got a standard car that I love the look of.
Plus the cup blue is stunning
I mostly went for the cup because of looks. I wanted a car I was happy with looks wise standard and didn't want to start buying spoilers and alloys etc , been there done that .
Yes it lacks certain things but I don't miss them and I've got a standard car that I love the look of.
Plus the cup blue is stunning
Its weird that the budget version of the car new (cups were a few K cheaper) are now often fetching more than the more expensive full fat variants are!
banther
ClioSport Club Member
Haha.... cups are bargain basement prices now.
Struggle to get £2k for one even if its epic.
Struggle to get £2k for one even if its epic.
banther
ClioSport Club Member
I had to get my dad to teach me about it after I had an Epic skid in the wet at 77mph in the outside lane of the M42.
RS Clio 172 Cup
I would choose the cup over a ff personally, not bothered about any of the so called 'toys'.
For me it came down to air con. Cup just wouldn't cut it on a long drive in hot weather for me. If it was a weekend toy when it wouldn't matter but if its a daily I'd try find a non cup. Only down side to non cup 172's and both 182's are the wheels IMO.
Considered a ph1? More I see them, the more I wish I had one.
Considered a ph1? More I see them, the more I wish I had one.
its a powerful car which needs abs, try driving a 5 turbo! that was the last time I will be driving a car with no ABS
what was the advantage of taking away ABS? naff all it was a stupid thing to do, ABS has nothing to do with someone so called driving like a tool its got nothing to do with that!
RB 182 195bhp
It's not a powerful car really though is it. 170 bhp isn't mega power, people coped before abs was invented and had more power than that, people should cope now.
I have had my cup a year and a half, lack of abs has only effected me twice, both times was when the weight came off one front wheel and just that wheel locked up. It's not a big deal though is it?
I do agree there is no real advantage of taking away the abs, and it was a silly decision, but it's not the end of the world, and wouldn't put me off a car i was viewing at all.
Tbh the advise I'd give op is just to find the best example you can, cup or non cup, you'll still enjoy it
It's not a powerful car really though is it. 170 bhp isn't mega power, people coped before abs was invented and had more power than that, people should cope now.
I have had my cup a year and a half, lack of abs has only effected me twice, both times was when the weight came off one front wheel and just that wheel locked up. It's not a big deal though is it?
I do agree there is no real advantage of taking away the abs, and it was a silly decision, but it's not the end of the world, and wouldn't put me off a car i was viewing at all.
Tbh the advise I'd give op is just to find the best example you can, cup or non cup, you'll still enjoy it
yes its a powerful car yes, but as said before power has nothing to do with ABS, if you think that why would you fit ABS to a smart car for example.
times change, cars get safer etc.
there you go then, I have had zero scary moments in my 172 under braking, oh wait I have ABS !
piece of mind I wouldn't buy another car without ABS
RB 182 195bhp
Seriously, it's not a powerful car. It's a hot hatch, think you need to get back down to earth.
Times do change, you say cars get safer, I say they get heavier, more numb and more boring.
Abs is not crucial in daily driving, just don't freeze on the pedals and you'll be fine.
I also prefer the feel of non ABS, but the what you have said is just not true at all TBH, a good ABS system (which admittedly the clio one isnt amazing) can outperform ANY F1 racing driver let alone the rest of us.
Hence ABS was developed in F1 to allow cars to perform better than a driver with one pedal can ever hope to achieve (as he cant control the 4 brakes separately like ABS can!)
Clio 172 Cup Mondial
For those times in stupid traffic where people go 80 then nothing and everyone slams in there brakes( which happens)! No abs would scare me
