Hit a brick and oil pissing out!

[GiT]

Yeah that’s what I’m going to do. See what happens, what’s done is done

Exactly mate. Fingers crossed, it's just a noisy top end and the big ends and bearings have JUST survived.

Forget all about it and enjoy your holiday.

 

[Jonnio]

Fingers crossed. 🤞

I've had past experience with a piece of brick flying out of a lorry but that was some bodywork damage instead.

 

[Not a Diesel!!!]

I told my wife..... She said the same - Forget all about it and enjoy your holiday.

It will not seem as bad looking back in 6m a years time.

 

[Not a Diesel!!!]

Oh. btw there is a RB 182 coming up on collecting cars with just under 50k..... Best not look at that.

 

[jameswrx]

If it’s a 50k mile RB then please don’t go through insurance as it’d write it off.

I’d get it sorted and keep it as it’ll be worth decent money.

or if not, sell it now with a dead engine. If it’s a nice shell you’ll prob still get ok money. Insurance will only shaft you for the next 5 years anyway. So it’s swings n roundabouts with price.

 

[Touring_Rob]

Rattling and knocking aren't the same thing. Top end with low oil pressure will tick/rattle. Bottom end will knock.

If the sump is just cracked, then I would put a tray under it, fill with cheap oil - start engine for a few moments and have a listen.

If the sump has a hole in it obvs don't do that.

If it was mine I would personally want to keep the original engine with the car as a low miles RB is getting very rare.... The last thing I would do it go through insurance at all.

 

[Louis]

Shove a sump on it, fill it with oil and f**king send it.

Is there any point inspecting it if you'll be shoving another engine in anyway?

 

[dann2707]

If you do decide to cut your losses, let me know and I'll probably buy it with a knackered engine obviously price dependant

 

[TRH_Racing]

rip

 

[-Rob]

I’d be interested if you want to sell it on, as long as you don’t go through the insurance.

Been looking for a tidy 182, this just means I could go all out on a engine build.

 

[PhillipM]

Shove a sump on it, fill it with oil and f**king send it.

Is there any point inspecting it if you'll be shoving another engine in anyway?

^Probably the easiest/cheapest option. If it's good, great, if it rattles, it needed a sump anyway.

 

[Touring_Rob]

If you do decide to cut your losses, let me know and I'll probably buy it with a knackered engine obviously price dependant

I’d be interested if you want to sell it on, as long as you don’t go through the insurance.

Been looking for a tidy 182, this just means I could go all out on a engine build.

 

[DaveLiquid182]

How about bodge the sump with some metal filler. Put the required amount of oil in and run it up for a while.
if it’s ok, new sump and job done.

 

[Chocice]

With that mileage get it looked at you never know it might not be toast, think hard before you contact the insurance as it’s worth a fair bit in good condition a 50k mileage 182 in average condition would be over £5k but the insurance company would see it as some old Clio and give you hardly anything unless you had some minimum payout agreement linked to its condition. A similar thing happened to a fiat coupe i owned. I ended up dropping a new engine in and literally keeping the car off the road for the time it took me to source the engine and get the work done equalled out with its growing popularity and increased price when I came to sell it, yet if it was a write off I would have take a huge hit.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

See it's live on collecting cars, guess you got it sorted then?

 

[Clio_fool]

See it's live on collecting cars, guess you got it sorted then?

Different car. And how has that one got full service history when the last service was in 2018!

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Different car. And how has that one got full service history when the last service was in 2018!

Thought he said somewhere in the thread it was his? Oh well, close enough.

Not sure you can trust the descriptions on CC nowadays, whenever you look stuff is often due belts or hasn't had the common problems sorted.

 

[HaveaCuppa]

How about bodge the sump with some metal filler. Put the required amount of oil in and run it up for a while.
if it’s ok, new sump and job done.

This.

Knocked a hole in my sump last year on my daily. Couldn’t be arsed fixing it again so punted on marketplace to a chap who is fairly local. He patched the hole in the sump with JB weld and it’s still running 6m on.

 

[Daniel]

Thought he said somewhere in the thread it was his? Oh well, close enough.

Not sure you can trust the descriptions on CC nowadays, whenever you look stuff is often due belts or hasn't had the common problems sorted.

CC just seems a platform for massively inflated shite.
Which is a shame as on the beginning, they sold some really cool and unique cars that had been meticulously maintained and cherished.
Now they’ll sell any old s**t and advertise it using long words to pad it out.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

CC just seems a platform for massively inflated shite.
Which is a shame as on the beginning, they sold some really cool and unique cars that had been meticulously maintained and cherished.
Now they’ll sell any old s**t and advertise it using long words to pad it out.

It's like the housing market, all the decent stuff sold and now they're scraping the bottom of the barrel while the market is still frothy

 

[Chocice]

Did the ops car get fixed in the end?

 

[yeecup]

another cup up on cc, remember seeing it for sale previously may have been on here, remember it due to the spec/quaiffe diff fitted. looks a nice one anyway with belts just done by a proper specialist. should make good money.

 

[Darren S]

All these posts in this thread stating 'not to tell the insurance'. And why? Surely the whole point of having this legally enforced charge put upon us, is that when random s**t like what happened to the OP occurs - we have this pot that we've pissed into for several years (if not decades) to help us out?

In essence - we pay per annum on the hope that we never have to claim for fear of being shafted yet again over the next several years. I'm pretty sure that Mob bosses run protection rackets that are more friendly and honest for the paying victim.

I hate insurance with a passion.

 

[Touring_Rob]

All these posts in this thread stating 'not to tell the insurance'. And why? Surely the whole point of having this legally enforced charge put upon us, is that when random s**t like what happened to the OP occurs - we have this pot that we've pissed into for several years (if not decades) to help us out?

In essence - we pay per annum on the hope that we never have to claim for fear of being shafted yet again over the next several years. I'm pretty sure that Mob bosses run protection rackets that are more friendly and honest for the paying victim.

I hate insurance with a passion.

Depends on the car.

In this case an appreciating car with low miles in a good colour. Getting a payout (which will be less than market value) and having the car catagorised will mean the OP probably looses out financially in the longer term. So if he isn't keeping it then claim, if its a car he wants to keep for the long term I wouldn't.

All moot as he isn't replying anymore so 🤷‍♂️

 

[R3k1355]

Insurance will deffo write the car off, you'll then be in a battle to get a fair payout. After that you'll get shafted for several years with higher premiums.

Worst case it needs a replacement engine, but could get lucky and need a new sump, maybe some shells.

 

[Daz.]

Unlucky, hopefully it's ok.

There's no way I'd have driven 100 yards after that though let alone for minutes.

 

[Ed Hodson]

All these posts in this thread stating 'not to tell the insurance'. And why? Surely the whole point of having this legally enforced charge put upon us, is that when random s**t like what happened to the OP occurs - we have this pot that we've pissed into for several years (if not decades) to help us out?

In essence - we pay per annum on the hope that we never have to claim for fear of being shafted yet again over the next several years. I'm pretty sure that Mob bosses run protection rackets that are more friendly and honest for the paying victim.

I hate insurance with a passion.

This is why for my cars (two old Clios!) I pay the absolute minimum I can for insurance. I’ll never pay for any extras or try to find a particularly reputable insurer because I know that I’m unlikely to make a claim for my own car. Therefore, by paying for insurance, i’m just paying a fee to be able to legally drive on the road.

 

[MRBILLYUK]

Insurance will deffo write the car off, you'll then be in a battle to get a fair payout. After that you'll get shafted for several years with higher premiums.

Worst case it needs a replacement engine, but could get lucky and need a new sump, maybe some shells.

You think they'll write the car off because of a scrapped engine? Why would they? It's still economic to repair.
I got front ended 4 weeks ago by a little old lady who joined the roundabout on the wrong side of the road. It was a very low impact collision but its costing her insurance £3k to repair.
New bonnet, new front bumper, new offside headlight, new upper grill and 2 new arch liners. The only thing my body shop couldn't source were the 2 plastic impact absorbers behind the bumper. I sourced 2 good 2nd hand parts. Then prep and paint. The engineer who her insurance company use tried to get my body shop to knock the price down a bit but he stood his ground with the £3k estimate and they backed down 😊
They didn't write mine off.

 

[HaveaCuppa]

You think they'll write the car off because of a scrapped engine? Why would they? It's still economic to repair.
I got front ended 4 weeks ago by a little old lady who joined the roundabout on the wrong side of the road. It was a very low impact collision but its costing her insurance £3k to repair.
New bonnet, new front bumper, new offside headlight, new upper grill and 2 new arch liners. The only thing my body shop couldn't source were the 2 plastic impact absorbers behind the bumper. I sourced 2 good 2nd hand parts. Then prep and paint. The engineer who her insurance company use tried to get my body shop to knock the price down a bit but he stood his ground with the £3k estimate and they backed down 😊
They didn't write mine off.
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Ouch, sorry to hear that mate. Glad it's not been written off though!

How on earth did your bodyshop find arch liners? One side is NLA and nigh on impossible to source?!

 

[MRBILLYUK]

Ouch, sorry to hear that mate. Glad it's not been written off though!

How on earth did your bodyshop find arch liners? One side is NLA and nigh on impossible to source?!

Apparently everything is available from France. I'm not 100% certain he's replacing both, I think he said he was but can't remember now if he said he was. I'll ask him next time I speak to him. He's definitely replacing the offside arch liner.

 

[davo172]

Read the OP username and thought it was a new thread started by Matthew!

 

[R3k1355]

You think they'll write the car off because of a scrapped engine? Why would they? It's still economic to repair.

Economical to repair for whom??

The insurance company aren't exactly about to buy a second hand engine off eBay and sling it in are they? Their only options would be to strip and repair the current engine, source a properly rebuilt one, or a crate engine.

None of those options are cheap, all involve a s**t load of extra labour and time and none would be viable for the insurance co.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

From memory a short block from Renault is about £800 alone.

 

[MRBILLYUK]

Economical to repair for whom??

The insurance company aren't exactly about to buy a second hand engine off eBay and sling it in are they? Their only options would be to strip and repair the current engine, source a properly rebuilt one, or a crate engine.

None of those options are cheap, all involve a s**t load of extra labour and time and none would be viable for the insurance co.

Why would their only option be to strip and repair the current engine? If the OP could source a 2nd hand engine the insurance would pay for that.
I see it all the time on here when somebody has a belt failure. " Just source a 2nd hand engine and fit that".
You have a lot more rights than people think when you make an insurance claim. Granted for a car 16+ years old the insurance company's first port of call is to write the car off. But you can insist that it's repaired.
Look at my car. I'd say it was worth £5k, 105k miles, one owner from new with every bit of service history since new. Yet they're still paying £3k to repair it. Some might say it's not economical to repair. But I want my car repaired so it's going to be repaired. I've already had a courtesy car for 1 month which has probably cost the insurance company £3k before we even start talking about the cost of the repair.

 

[Touring_Rob]

Why would their only option be to strip and repair the current engine? If the OP could source a 2nd hand engine the insurance would pay for that.
I see it all the time on here when somebody has a belt failure. " Just source a 2nd hand engine and fit that".
You have a lot more rights than people think when you make an insurance claim. Granted for a car 16+ years old the insurance company's first port of call is to write the car off. But you can insist that it's repaired.
Look at my car. I'd say it was worth £5k, 105k miles, one owner from new with every bit of service history since new. Yet they're still paying £3k to repair it. Some might say it's not economical to repair. But I want my car repaired so it's going to be repaired. I've already had a courtesy car for 1 month which has probably cost the insurance company £3k before we even start talking about the cost of the repair.

I do agree with you but I am amazed they have agreed to repair it. The norm for damage like that is to write the car off.

Credit to you and your insurance company that you've managed to save it.

 

[MRBILLYUK]

I do agree with you but I am amazed they have agreed to repair it. The norm for damage like that is to write the car off.

Credit to you and your insurance company that you've managed to save it.

The body shop I use. The guy is s**t hot when it comes to the legal side of insurance claims. Their engineer, from LV tried to knock him down on the price or the repair but he stood his ground and told them that's how much its gonna cost and in the end they agreed.
That's the difference I letting the insurance company handle who repairs your car and you telling them this is the body shop who I want to repair my car.

 

[bozothenutter]

Pure motorsport sump protector, does wonders for front end stiffness too! (Sorry to be THAT guy)

 

[Teffers]

another cup up on cc, remember seeing it for sale previously may have been on here, remember it due to the spec/quaiffe diff fitted. looks a nice one anyway with belts just done by a proper specialist. should make good money.

I bought that - just off to pick it up now #fingerscrossed

 

[Clio_fool]

@AIRBORNEGOD what's happened with your car mate?

 

[AIRBORNEGOD]

@AIRBORNEGOD what's happened with your car mate?

It’s going in on the 16th may. I’m on holiday again ( covid cancellations) and just wanted to wait till they were both done with.