Scared of going over 80 mph, after new toyo t1r tyres

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

driving back home from the gym, and there was a light bend ahead, as i trned, the whole car like did a snake move, and i thought my back end was gonna come away, these tyres are s**t, i payed 200 pound for these, and there making me not want to drive, as its really soft, and non responsive on the steering wheel

How can i improve the ability of the wheels, i was thinking front and back strut brace?

I dont want to lower my car ?

Help

 

[Fred@BTM]

are they scrubbed in fully?

 

[powey]

pressures ok?
suspension ok?

Oil on the corner?
wet?

Youl want to scrub them in to

 

[jamesp24]

You sure its to do with the tyres,i never experienced anything like that with them.

 

[theduck]

Mate I have Toyo T1R tyres on for around 1000miles now and have found them to be superb, if anything I can be more 'reckless' than I could with my original Continentals on. Are you sure you havent got another problem, possibly worn rear shocks, maybe tracking problem?

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

ive had them on about a week now, and im unsure what pressure to put in them, the tyre fitters put 32 front 32 rear in , and i dont wanna roll my car, but i dont wanna drive over 60 now cause its too wobbly ..

How you mean scrub them in ? like wear them in ?

 

[Fred@BTM]

oh so its not like they're 5min old then!

32front
29rear

the wheel nuts torqued up yeah?

 

[rob_clio197rs]

i had toyo t1r,s and thought they was pretty good untill i swapped them for goodyear eagle f1s, pretty similar in the dry say the goodyears a bit better but in the wet they are worlds apart!! goodyears are so much better, i was very suprised as they are similar price too

 

[m0rk]

Did they balance them?

Check your wheel nuts too - just for sanity's sake

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

ill check my wheel nuts, but i did watch them put them on and tighten them, yea i also watched them balance them,

Its like when im driving over 60, i turn my wheel slightly and the whole car does a snake motion ... Everyone behind me prob thinks that im gonna loose it or going too fast...

So 32 front 29 rear?

Where can i find my tyre pressure guide, should i ring renault?

 

[Fred@BTM]

that sounds very odd!

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

the tyres do feel very soft? the tread, is this normal ?

 

[theduck]

Check your all your shocks and springs.

Sounds a little like a problem I had with my mk2 ph1 1.6. That had 2 slightly worn rear shocks, 1 as new front shock and 1 front shock which was badly damaged due to a snapped spring. So as I turned in and the broken shock was trying to do its job, everything went to pot.

 

[jamesp24]

Check your dampers over ,You got any lowering springs on there ?

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

no lowering spings, completely standard.... standard 16 inch alloys, etc, when i check my dampers, if and what am i checking for visually ??

Also renault reccomend 33 front, 30 rear? Correct ? < psi

 

[ForceIndia]

Look for any fluid leaking from the dampers.

 

[172_dan]

Why do u have more in front and less in rear? cos theyres more weight at front? suppose it makes sense, ive never heard of it before tho!

 

[Fred@BTM]

correct

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

im gonna put 33 in front and 30 rear is this ok ?

 

[theduck]

dampers may have oily residue on them, springs check for cracks

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMP-Front-Rea...s_SM?hash=item5ad22b38c6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

looking to buy this now

 

[ForceIndia]

I would really check your dampers 1st. Sounds as though the rear is the issue, and I've been told those braces have zero effect on the rear.

 

[theduck]

Mate adding strut braces wont fix an underlying problem

 

[Greeny.]

Sounds like what my car felt like when the standard rear shocks went tbh, you checked them? Was dangerous to corner to hard as the car was all over the place.

The tyres are fine though, I have them and fly through corners at all speeds without an issue.

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

ok ill go check them and report back to you's

 

[Triki]

Probably worth getting someone to check it with you, no offence but it really sounds like your unsure what your actually checking.

I would be inclined to do a quick spanner check, on the rear.

 

[Fred@BTM]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMP-Front-Rea...s_SM?hash=item5ad22b38c6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

looking to buy this now

waste of £120!

 

[172_dan]

to be honest i think my 172 handles great!! do strut braces make a notacable difference, like lowering?

 

[BoroGTI]

driving back home from the gym, and there was a light bend ahead, as i trned, the whole car like did a snake move, and i thought my back end was gonna come away, these tyres are s**t, i payed 200 pound for these, and there making me not want to drive, as its really soft, and non responsive on the steering wheel

How can i improve the ability of the wheels, i was thinking front and back strut brace?

I dont want to lower my car ?

Help

Ye i would just check everything like pressures etc, although i used to have Toyo T1R's and you couldent pay me to have them again, used to lose the back end constantly and road noise was terrible

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

rite i got the the petrol station and checked my tyres to find some idiot, put 40 psi in all 4 tyres!!!

I thought these people knew what they where doing, neway only had a brief go in it and it feel alot more stable lets say that, out 33 front, 30 rear?

 

[Clio_Sport_Hull]

bdw, didnt check the shocks, but i mite take it to brit tyres? apparently they offer free safety check, inspecting things like that

 

[cliort75]

rite i got the the petrol station and checked my tyres to find some idiot, put 40 psi in all 4 tyres!!!

I thought these people knew what they where doing, neway only had a brief go in it and it feel alot more stable lets say that, out 33 front, 30 rear?

40psi is a bit much, no wonder car felt odd.

 

[J-J]

I wouldn't think a strut brace would do much, as this just increases ridgidity of the car, so will put more on one tire.

Also, I wouldn't really be saying I was scared of going over 80mph on a public forum when the national limit is 70 lol

 

[jamesp24]

to be honest i think my 172 handles great!! do strut braces make a notacable difference, like lowering?

Strut braces make fek all difference,different lower stiffer springs etc can make a difference.

 

[scottiebhoy]

I have toyo T1r's on my 182 and havent had any probs, i have them the same pressure as the handbook says! A little scary in the snow, but expected.

 

[wicker man]

driving back home from the gym, and there was a light bend ahead, as i trned, the whole car like did a snake move, and i thought my back end was gonna come away, these tyres are s**t, i payed 200 pound for these, and there making me not want to drive, as its really soft, and non responsive on the steering wheel

How can i improve the ability of the wheels, i was thinking front and back strut brace?

I dont want to lower my car ?

Help

i woodnt put toyo t1r's on a car if toyo payed me £10 by the mile for having them, anything that company makes is complete budget garbage i lmao anytime anyone from toyo sez the word "perforance" closey followed by the word "tyre"

 

[Jamie86]

So R888's are "budget garbage" then?

Also running T1R's mainly becuase they are pretty decent in the dry and dont cost too much to be bothered about using on the track as well!

 

[wicker man]

So R888's are "budget garbage" then?

pretty much, better use wood be as a plant pot

 

[Alex_X93]

Sound like dodgey balance to me.

 

[_WILL_]

remember that the tyre pressures are for when the tyres are cold, so when you got to garage and it said 40, that aint completly accurate (although i guess it is still to high?)

Get someone to check the car over, the free check sounds good but remember they want to make money out of you somehow, so be careful...