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Tyre type confusion
- Thread starter cdalfa
- Start date
You're just getting it confused :wink:
The vast majority of people on here will tell you that the T1R is a pretty poor choice. It is afterall only priced to be a low-end tyre. You'll probably get much more enjoyment out of your car (and not to mention probably more life, safety and less road noise) if you were to go for an mid-range/premium tyre. Common recommendations are:
Uniroyal Rainsport - Some people swear by these, others think they're too wet-weather focused to the point that they compromise dry weather performance too much
Hankook V12 Evo - a really popular choice over the last couple of years, seem to have fallen out of favour
Continental Contact Sport 3
Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric
Pirelli P-Zero GT
Michelin Pilot Sport
Nankang NS2, Yokohoma AD08r, Parada Spec 2 etc are often popular options in the summer or if the Clio is just a dry-weather toy, but get quite a bit of criticism for very fast wear and poor wet weather performance.
Tyres are really difficult to shop for to be honest. People have wildly varying opinions (I read a review last week where a Lotus Exige owner gave a very well known semi slick track tyre 1 out of 5 stars because they were "sh*t in the wet" - WTF does he expect?) and because tyres last so long people inevitably fit brand new tyres every 2 years and think they're the best/worst thing since sliced bread because they're comparing them to 12,000 mile old bald tyres last week.
Also people love to compare apples and bananas. What works well on a BMW 320d m-sport (rear wheel drive, really wide and low profile tyres, really soft suspension) doesn't necessarily work well on a Clio RS which is completely different in terms of design (front wheel drive, relatively narrow and high profile tyres in comparison, relatively firm suspension)
Last rant, but not least... These new tyre ratings (the A to F labels like the ones you see on washing machines etc) can be really misleading because they don't take into account the life of the tyre or the dry grip.
On reflection that was mainly a rant, dispersed with a summary of the 4938372838 tyre threads on CS :tongueout: I like tyres. A lot.
The vast majority of people on here will tell you that the T1R is a pretty poor choice. It is afterall only priced to be a low-end tyre. You'll probably get much more enjoyment out of your car (and not to mention probably more life, safety and less road noise) if you were to go for an mid-range/premium tyre. Common recommendations are:
Uniroyal Rainsport - Some people swear by these, others think they're too wet-weather focused to the point that they compromise dry weather performance too much
Hankook V12 Evo - a really popular choice over the last couple of years, seem to have fallen out of favour
Continental Contact Sport 3
Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric
Pirelli P-Zero GT
Michelin Pilot Sport
Nankang NS2, Yokohoma AD08r, Parada Spec 2 etc are often popular options in the summer or if the Clio is just a dry-weather toy, but get quite a bit of criticism for very fast wear and poor wet weather performance.
Tyres are really difficult to shop for to be honest. People have wildly varying opinions (I read a review last week where a Lotus Exige owner gave a very well known semi slick track tyre 1 out of 5 stars because they were "sh*t in the wet" - WTF does he expect?) and because tyres last so long people inevitably fit brand new tyres every 2 years and think they're the best/worst thing since sliced bread because they're comparing them to 12,000 mile old bald tyres last week.
Also people love to compare apples and bananas. What works well on a BMW 320d m-sport (rear wheel drive, really wide and low profile tyres, really soft suspension) doesn't necessarily work well on a Clio RS which is completely different in terms of design (front wheel drive, relatively narrow and high profile tyres in comparison, relatively firm suspension)
Last rant, but not least... These new tyre ratings (the A to F labels like the ones you see on washing machines etc) can be really misleading because they don't take into account the life of the tyre or the dry grip.
On reflection that was mainly a rant, dispersed with a summary of the 4938372838 tyre threads on CS :tongueout: I like tyres. A lot.
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The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Bang on that post!
If you gave a more all-round premium tyre a go (e.g. the Michelin) I think you might be shocked at how "full of dry grip" a road tyre can be.
Of course I completely agree with myself though, by a freak of nature really important design characteristics such as the sidewall stiffness (a tyre is a big spring which needs to be tuned to match the suspension springs!) or the particular tyre pressure you had might have been a fantastic match to an Alfa 75. A bit like when you watch the F1 and a Williams goes really well on the soft compound but the Mercedes prefers the harder compound.
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ersevere:
Pug 206 SW, 172 CUP
Your driving style is a biggie. Even the premium tyres won't last five minutes if you scrub the crap out of your tyres every corner. Especially at tracks days if you use an armful of lock to try and kerb understeer rather than a bit of weight transfer when you can. My Berlingo 75PS works Van would destroy any tyre edge in less than 2000 miles if you drove it with any vigour.
Pug 206 SW, 172 CUP
Work for me on my Cup! Perfectly adequate for a smooth fast road style on track. Watch them on a hot day if you start going all time attack. The edges will suffer as it's not what they were designed for.
