ChatGPT (AI)

[Oggy997]

I'm fed up with people using it to spoon answers to others.

Im capable of asking gpt myself, I don't need to have you paste it's excessively emoji'd/wordy response.

 

[SharkyUK]

A quote I read earlier...

"Vibe coding" with no prior tech background is the digital equivalent of toddlers hitting a Speak&Spell with a hammer until it makes the noises they like, only it also sometimes happens to be linked up to critical data and life-or-death decision making logic, and a big chunk of the aforementioned toddlers are adorned with mis-matched suits and oversized egos.

 

[Oggy997]

Oh, that's the technical term for my role.

 

[Advikaz]

Any of you tried that Grok LLM

It’s great for making wind up vids of your mates.

Nearly all of my mates are now snogging very large semi naked African men.

Edit: or eachother

 

[CrippsCorner]

ChatGPT now blocked at work... forced to use Copilot. Seems basically the same, I guess.

 

[dann2707]

Unbelievably satisfied.

With me getting a new toolbox and wanting to separate the new from old as all my bits were an amalgamation of mechanic bits, DIY and electrical etc and of course a huge amount of random bits in an organised chaos manner I talked into chat gpt and just read out every tool that I had. Explained how many old and new drawers I have and its arranged them all into relevant drawers so taking the leg work out.

Really blown away with how well that's actually worked

 

[Clart]

It’s pretty much replaced Google for me now.

Has so many uses in everyday life, home and work.

 

[dann2707]

Definitely. It's like having a genie in your pocket pretty much.

 

[TC.]

Apart from a few images created through bing I’ve not laid eyes on any form of ai.

 

[MLB]

Apart from a few images created through bing I’ve not laid eyes on any form of ai.

Same, I have never used any of the services, maybe I'm missing out massively, but I do still use Google and don't struggle to put tools in drawers? 😉

 

[dann2707]

Same, I have never used any of the services, maybe I'm missing out massively, but I do still use Google and don't struggle to put tools in drawers? 😉

For me it's an effeciency thing, it's sorted out what would have been 2 days easily of getting all my tools out (and as you can imagine I have a stupid amount), laying them all out and organising them into categories, and within that understanding what category goes into each area. It even gave me label headings to print off for each drawer (33 drawers in total)

This did all of that in the space of me walking from one side of the garage to the other.

Which when I'm already massively struggling for time as it is, is a huge benefit to me anyway!

 

[dann2707]

This was me blabbing on to it on the phone working from the top down to the bottom :

I've got a big torque wrench, a big wrench, pry bars times four, a crowbar, some glasses, and then I've got flathead screwdrivers, torque screwdrivers, Phillips screwdrivers, a drawer with scissors, pencils, pry bars, mini pry bars, , a laser level. Next mini drawer, we've got a load of pens, Stanley knives, markers, paint markers, centre punch. We've got, the next mini drawer, we've got a load of pliers, so long nose, medium nose, etc. And then we've got the next big drawer down is a load of random bits full of specialised tools, a digital angle finder, bolt extraction tools. Next drawer down, we've got a big drawer, again, all these are big drawers now. So we've got tape and files and wire brushes, that's one drawer. Next drawer down, we've got socket sets. We've got a knife, a chainsaw sharpener, long spanners, extended sockets, extended extensions for sockets, tape measure. Next drawer down, we've got cable ties and flexible spanners. Next drawer down, we've got big pliers, so like mole grips, hose clips, clamps, little mini ratchets, hose clamps. next drawer down we've got hammers. Next drawer down we've got rivnut set, specialist pliers, got hacksaws, got lambda sensor removable plugs, we've got an angle finder, we've got a mini wrench again, we've got a brake flaring kit. Next drawer down we've got kind of electrical bits along with socket sets. We've got stud finders, we've got solder suckers, we've got wires for probes. Next drawer down we've got specialist tools again. We've got plastic trim removal tools, we've got chisels, we've got staples, we've got electrical parts that test if your socket's working. We've got another wrench, magnets, and a syringe. Next drawer down we've got welding stuff, including a 90-degree square, a set square, some string for marking out, brickwork. Next drawer down we've got drill bits, impact driver bits, hole saws, riveter, and then the next drawer down, the last drawer, is massive, and this has got cable and rope in there, ratchet straps. It's got big things like extension cable, it's got hacksaw, it's got a heat gun, fire blanket, a fuel pump, and it's got jump starters, and a set square, and a hacksaw. And that's everything.

And then this was the output. Mental




This is a BEAUTIFUL level of chaos. I’m proud of you for wanting to civilise it 👏
You’ve basically got mechanic + DIY + fabrication + electrical + “that might be useful one day” all living together.
We’re going to give everything a home and make the two boxes make sense:
🧰 OVERALL STRATEGY
✅ NEW 15-Drawer Toolbox = MECHANICAL / PRECISION / FREQUENT USE
All your car/mechanical, measuring, fastening, and daily-grab tools.
✅ OLD 18-Drawer Toolbox = DIY / ELECTRICAL / FABRICATION / BULKY
Consumables, power tool accessories, welding, building, and big awkward stuff.
This keeps your diagnostic + mechanical brain tools separate from house/garage project tools.
🔧 NEW TOOLBOX (15 Drawers)
Theme: Mechanical, fastening, measuring, “working on things”
Drawer 1 – Ratchets & Core Drive Tools
Mini ratchets
Main ratchets
Extensions
Extended extensions
Drawer 2 – Socket Sets
All main socket sets (group by metric/imperial if you can)
Drawer 3 – Specialist Sockets
Extended sockets
Lambda sensor socket
Any odd-profile sockets
Drawer 4 – Spanners
Standard spanners
Flexible spanners
Drawer 5 – Large Wrenches
Big wrench
Mini wrench
Any adjustable wrenches
Drawer 6 – Torque Tools
Big torque wrench
Torque screwdrivers
Drawer 7 – Screwdrivers
Flathead
Phillips
(Keep this pure — you’ll thank yourself later)
Drawer 8 – Pliers (General Control)
Long nose
Combination
Medium pliers
Drawer 9 – Gripping & Clamping
Mole grips
Hose clamp pliers
Larger specialist pliers
Drawer 10 – Pry & Leverage Tools
Pry bars (full size)
Mini pry bars
Crowbar
Drawer 11 – Striking & Punching
Hammers
Centre punch
Chisels
Drawer 12 – Cutting Tools
Hacksaws
Knife
Stanley knives (if you want them mechanical-side)
Drawer 13 – Measuring & Angles
Digital angle finder
Manual angle finder
Tape measure
Laser level
Drawer 14 – Precision & Extraction
Bolt extraction tools
Stud extractors
Magnets
Picks / small probing tools
Drawer 15 – Specialist Mechanical Kits
Brake flaring kit
Rivnut set
Specialist mechanic tools (keep this the “car weird stuff” drawer)
🧰 OLD TOOLBOX (18 Drawers)
Theme: Electrical, building, fabrication, consumables, bulky
🔹 TOP SMALL SPLIT DRAWERS (6)
Small 1: Pens, pencils, markers, paint markers
Small 2: Scissors, blades, spare Stanley blades
Small 3: Electrical testers (socket tester, probe wires, etc.)
Small 4: Staples, small fixings, random small hardware
Small 5: Drill bits (small sizes)
Small 6: Driver bits, impact bits
🔹 MAIN DRAWERS
Drawer 1 – Electrical Tools
Solder sucker
Electrical hand tools
Wire-related tools
Drawer 2 – Electrical Consumables
Cable ties
Connectors
Small electrical parts
Drawer 3 – Power Tool Accessories
Hole saws
Larger drill bits
Riveter
Drawer 4 – Filing, Cleaning & Surface Prep
Files
Wire brushes
Sanding-related bits
Drawer 5 – Cutting & Blades
Chainsaw sharpener
Spare blades
Cutting accessories
Drawer 6 – Welding & Fabrication
Welding tools
90° square
Metalworking squares
Drawer 7 – Marking Out & Layout
String line
Set square
Marking/layout tools
Drawer 8 – Building / Masonry
Brickwork tools
Heavy-duty layout tools
Drawer 9 – Specialist Non-Mechanical Tools
Plastic trim removal tools
Syringe
Stud finder
Drawer 10 – Random Specialist Overflow
(Your current “special tools” drawer — but now contained)
🔹 BOTTOM LARGE DRAWERS (Bulky Zone)
Drawer 11 – Straps & Securing
Ratchet straps
Rope
Drawer 12 – Power & Heat
Heat gun
Extension cables
Drawer 13 – Emergency / Safety
Fire blanket
Jump starter
Drawer 14 – Automotive Bulky
Fuel pump
Larger car-related items not used daily
Drawer 15 – Spare Space (Future Proofing)
You’ll fill this. You always do.
🧠 Why this works
New box = grab-and-fix machine/mechanical stuff
Old box = project materials + accessories
Frequently used tools live in top/middle drawers
Heavy, rare, or bulky gear lives low
If you want, next step I can help you: 👉 Label the drawers logically
👉 Decide foam vs dividers vs trays
👉 Optimise for “working on a car” vs “working in the house” workflows

 

[mace¬]

Just add to this, my horsey horsey thing turns ~10% profit every week. I still haven’t got the balls to stake enough to make it worth it but I had £1k a week to play it would be good work turning over £1600 a month. It is still improving so hopefully I’ll grow some balls at some point

 

[Starlet_gt]

Same, I have never used any of the services, maybe I'm missing out massively, but I do still use Google and don't struggle to put tools in drawers? 😉

Same for me. I've used it a handful of times. It's never my go to.

 

[Ray Gin]

I definitely use Grok more than google these days. Probably use it a handful of times a day without even realising.

I guess with googling things you’re just presented with lists of search results then you do the rest, whereas AI will tell you the answer, added detail if necessary and cite the source/fact check. Google can do this now but through AI, making the google service itself kinda redundant.

 

[SharkyUK]

I am sick to the back teeth of fecking AI. It no doubt has utility, but it also has immense power to be ruinous. I expect it to take my job at some point, but the garbage it can produce right now (I'm talking from a professional/work viewpoint here) is shocking. I absolutely detest that many junior and mid-level engineers are being pushed to seek AI assistance, and then senior+ levels are having to try and decipher, critically review, and report back on that AI-assisted work. It is painful, wastes more time than it saves, devalues and demoralises the reviewer, and the originating engineers generally don't have a clue what they have generated. Not a healthy precedent. I can only see it getting worse at this point in time. I'll get off my soapbox.

 

[botfch]

I am sick to the back teeth of fecking AI. It no doubt has utility, but it also has immense power to be ruinous. I expect it to take my job at some point, but the garbage it can produce right now (I'm talking from a professional/work viewpoint here) is shocking. I absolutely detest that many junior and mid-level engineers are being pushed to seek AI assistance, and then senior+ levels are having to try and decipher, critically review, and report back on that AI-assisted work. It is painful, wastes more time than it saves, devalues and demoralises the reviewer, and the originating engineers generally don't have a clue what they have generated. Not a healthy precedent. I can only see it getting worse at this point in time. I'll get off my soapbox.

My boss really pushed the devs into using ai last year instead of replacing a couple guys who left.

We had the project assessment back, usually there’s a page or two of things needing fixing. This year however it’s a 270 page document and they’ve now had to hire 3 more devs and a load of contractors to sort it out as we are being fined daily until it’s fixed.

I can see a lot of places swinging back the other way and stop ai use as they lose money.

 

[SharkyUK]

My boss really pushed the devs into using ai last year instead of replacing a couple guys who left.

We had the project assessment back, usually there’s a page or two of things needing fixing. This year however it’s a 270 page document and they’ve now had to hire 3 more devs and a load of contractors to sort it out as we are being fined daily until it’s fixed.

I can see a lot of places swinging back the other way and stop ai use as they lose money.

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all from what I've seen and experienced mate. You soon learn how to recognise AI generated source code (or whatever) at a glance. Even if the person presenting it has taken the time to remove the damn emojis! I got to the point where my first checkpoint - when reviewing an engineer's code - was to have them sit with me and spend 10-15 minutes explaining what the code actually did and their reasoning behind their chosen implementation. Many, quite simply, could not do that. Which earned them an instant fail and a request to do it again.

 

[charltjr]

This article encapsulates the problem with ”AI” nicely.

Overrun with AI slop, cURL scraps bug bounties to ensure "intact mental health"

The onslaught includes LLMs finding bogus vulnerabilities and code that won't compile.

arstechnica.com

In the right hands, used well, fact checked and verified, a very powerful tool.

If not, a sea of made up slop in which we drown.

 

[dann2707]

This article encapsulates the problem with ”AI” nicely.

Overrun with AI slop, cURL scraps bug bounties to ensure "intact mental health"

The onslaught includes LLMs finding bogus vulnerabilities and code that won't compile.

arstechnica.com

In the right hands, used well, fact checked and verified, a very powerful tool.

If not, a sea of made up slop in which we drown.

100% agree.

The amounts of times I've had to correct it and it goes "you're absolutely right" is bonkers.

We're still a while to go yet I think.

 

[The Psychedelic Socialist]

100% agree.

The amounts of times I've had to correct it and it goes "you're absolutely right" is bonkers.

We're still a while to go yet I think.

The scary bit is that if you have some subject knowledge, you can spot those errors but when you're working on something you have no knowledge, anything could be sneaking through if you're not careful.

One thing I've found helps a little on more subjective questions is to put a standing instruction in its memory to always offer a contrarian view in addition to the main answer. At least that way you force it to try and make a case for both sides of the argument rather than have it blindly reassure you you're 100% correct.

 

[dann2707]

The scary bit is that if you have some subject knowledge, you can spot those errors but when you're working on something you have no knowledge, anything could be sneaking through if you're not careful.

One thing I've found helps a little on more subjective questions is to put a standing instruction in its memory to always offer a contrarian view in addition to the main answer. At least that way you force it to try and make a case for both sides of the argument rather than have it blindly reassure you you're 100% correct.

That's a good idea.

Mine was the other day with an excel sheet formatting some forumas. It kept getting the row number incorrect and it was bloody frustrating. Literally has one job to get that number correct 😂

 

[The Psychedelic Socialist]

That's a good idea.

Mine was the other day with an excel sheet formatting some forumas. It kept getting the row number incorrect and it was bloody frustrating. Literally has one job to get that number correct 😂

It's amazing how it can sometimes get 90% of a coding job correct, but not that last 10%, so literally all of the output is still total garbage. I can see how that might be helpful for an experience coder who can tweak that last 10%, but when you're not (like me), you just get into that loop of "That's still absolute nonsense" "Oh you're totally right". FUUUUUCK.

 

[Fantastic Nostrils]

I honestly just use it to calorie count and create meal plans for me.

Oh and I got it to review a blood test I had the results for recently. Did my own research outside of it and it was pretty bang on tbh

 

[Advikaz]

It’s becoming a bit of a problem in my world (I work in IT).

So many people using it now and it would seem most have no idea what they’re sending now over email.

I guess you could say it’s a bit like a gun, useful tool in the right hands for the right purpose. But mongs shouldn’t be allowed it. Which let’s face it, is most people.

On a different note, a girl my mate is seeing is using it over WhatsApp to talk about her feelings and it’s hilarious. He’s binning her as she’s a nut case, but it’s like reading about someone’s emotions in a board meeting 😂

 

[charltjr]

I honestly just use it to calorie count and create meal plans for me.

Oh and I got it to review a blood test I had the results for recently. Did my own research outside of it and it was pretty bang on tbh

It should be, becuase it’s almost certainly using the exact same resources you used to do your research. But maybe there’s a bunch of contrarian nonsense which has gained traction and it includes that, or maybe it’s core prompts have been set up to steer it’s answers in a certain direction as we know has happened with Grok:

Grok praises Hitler, gives credit to Musk for removing “woke filters”

X removed many harmful Grok posts but not before they reached tens of thousands.

arstechnica.com

The danger in abandoning critical thinking skills to an “AI” can’t be understated IMO - not that I’m suggesting you were, double checking the response is absolutely the way to go. It’s just terrifying to me the number of people saying “well, AI says…..” like it’s somehow credible when it comes anything. It’s just Google on steroids in a lot of cases.

I know it’s too late and we’re there already. Tech recruitment is now absolutely blighted by people who can’t think their way out of a room with an unlocked door in it without asking AI what to do.

 

[Fantastic Nostrils]

It should be, becuase it’s almost certainly using the exact same resources you used to do your research. But maybe there’s a bunch of contrarian nonsense which has gained traction and it includes that, or maybe it’s core prompts have been set up to steer it’s answers in a certain direction as we know has happened with Grok:

Grok praises Hitler, gives credit to Musk for removing “woke filters”

X removed many harmful Grok posts but not before they reached tens of thousands.

arstechnica.com

The danger in abandoning critical thinking skills to an “AI” can’t be understated IMO - not that I’m suggesting you were, double checking the response is absolutely the way to go. It’s just terrifying to me the number of people saying “well, AI says…..” like it’s somehow credible when it comes anything. It’s just Google on steroids in a lot of cases.

I know it’s too late and we’re there already. Tech recruitment is now absolutely blighted by people who can’t think their way out of a room with an unlocked door in it without asking AI what to do.

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Yep, I totally agree.

I think in todays age, you need to be a critical thinker in most aspects of life. Not only with the likes of ChatGPT or Grok but with social media. Its bonkers how many 'fitness influencers' I see (my algorithm is steered that way, plus god loves yoga pants) that have posted pictures of themselves after AI has edited their physique first. I feel really sorry for the people who cant see it and then get super disheartened by their own results in the gym when they dont look like a greek statue after 6 months. For those that do hit the gym, I think its a big part of why January is stupidly busy and then February is quiet again.

When it comes to health, its even more important. I had a specific issue that I needed to check out, and when I had my results back I shoved everything into AI to see what it said. Without any 'symptoms', it told me that it thought I would be feeling the exact symptoms I did. I then clarified that externally of AI, but yes probably using the same resources it would have searched, and concluded my own outcome.

It is wild though. The level of accuracy with AI videos now is bonkers and its getting 'better' (read: more scary) by the day.

 

[ChrisR]

Someone at work used some AI to try and generate a script we needed.

It fabricated API endpoints to use that don’t exist 😂

And the AI on our product never works for me, I ask it do to stuff and it just goes 🤷‍♂️

 

[Advikaz]

We had one fund I work with who managed to bring up another well known funds financial playbook on ChatGPT 😂😂😂

 

[TC.]

Same, I have never used any of the services, maybe I'm missing out massively, but I do still use Google and don't struggle to put tools in drawers? 😉

I’ve never spoken to Siri or any equivalent, fs I’ve never even talked to an Alexa 😂

 

[Ray Gin]

I got it to update my CV recently and had to edit it as it was so obvious it was AI 🤣

It’s still early doors with AI. In a few years time you’d expect a mass drop in jobs as it begins to take over. I think it’s worrying for those just starting a career in anything info/data related as the demand for humans to fulfil the role will surely plummet.

 

[Advikaz]

I got it to update my CV recently and had to edit it as it was so obvious it was AI 🤣

It’s still early doors with AI. In a few years time you’d expect a mass drop in jobs as it begins to take over. I think it’s worrying for those just starting a career in anything info/data related as the demand for humans to fulfil the role will surely plummet.

I thought the same initially, however I tend to think that the market is currently shagged from the fallout of Covid and also many companies over hired during that time.
I work with a lot of the biggest hedge and PE firms in the U.K. and the world. The U.K. clients I have are basically not looking to expand until Labour are gone..

Plus the current government policies are not pro growth and the world in general is in a bit of funny place.

A lot of it is tech companies hyping their products (#ai bubble) and the media causing the usual “we’re all gonna die”.

A lot of ai is a bit s**t tbh, it’s a useful assistant if you already know what you’re doing, but outside of that it’s not what people currently think it is.
The initial progress has been steep, but the next steps are not remotely straight forward - some even suggest not possible.

Nobody knows though, and it certainly isn’t going to help jobs at a more junior level

 

[MatthewR]

100% you need to know what you are doing before you start using AI.

We have (had) a guy at work who was putting basic information into copilot and pumping out a report for sign off. Reading through is was clear that it was AI but it was also clear the writer didnt understand what the hell they were talking about.

Its great to 'polish' something if you understand what you are writing about first but trying to use it to get past the initial learning is a big mistake.

 

[Advikaz]

100% you need to know what you are doing before you start using AI.

We have (had) a guy at work who was putting basic information into copilot and pumping out a report for sign off. Reading through is was clear that it was AI but it was also clear the writer didnt understand what the hell they were talking about.

Its great to 'polish' something if you understand what you are writing about first but trying to use it to get past the initial learning is a big mistake.

Exactly that.

It enables mongs

 

[dann2707]

100% you need to know what you are doing before you start using AI.

We have (had) a guy at work who was putting basic information into copilot and pumping out a report for sign off. Reading through is was clear that it was AI but it was also clear the writer didnt understand what the hell they were talking about.

Its great to 'polish' something if you understand what you are writing about first but trying to use it to get past the initial learning is a big mistake.

This is 100% it.

It needs to be used as a booster to make you into the ultimate human. Not to be used by itself as a replacement for someone's incompetence.

The way it works well for me is:

- I've been using it for Excel formulas, I already have a decent knowledge of excel, formulas and vba so if something is incorrect I spot it instantly and I've been using it to improve a document I've already made.

- helping me with CAD models, if it says stuff that doesn't make sense I'll know too.

- Creating healthy meal plans

 

[Louis]

I've been using it a fair bit recently, often just as a thesaurus really.

Its great for property search too and can break down lots of things when it comes to what to ask for with mortgage companies, searching for solicitors etc.

It's written some basic VBA for me on excel documents but you really have to put the right information in for it to figure it out.

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

I just use it so I have someone to talk to who says nice things to me


Oh and to try out decorating designs to see how they look

 

[dann2707]

One thing I can't justify is the monthly plan.

£20 a month seems really steep.

I would have expected some kind of intermediate payment plan.

£240 for the year is pretty unpalatable.

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

One thing I can't justify is the monthly plan.

£20 a month seems really steep.

I would have expected some kind of intermediate payment plan.

£240 for the year is pretty unpalatable.

Thanks for reminding me...I need to cancel the 20 quid a month 🤣 I tried the free month and forgot to cancel it. Can't say as I noticed much difference though. Maybe I will going back

 

[Tighten My Nuts]

I use it to sense check things, data trends, company analyses, so second opinions mostly.

I've also discovered a few new formulae for Excel 😁

I get it free through work but would pay personally for the ability to upload multiple documents/images which is quite limited on the free version.

Also, with the paid one, all our, and my, data is kept within and not used to train itself or shared with the outside world.