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yeah you might be considering their engines are made of plastic ;)

You got a turbo or something? ;)

My dad has a 1.8 mx5 and it isnt anywhere near as quick as my 172, but they do handle amazingly well with little if any bodyroll and alot of grip. According to most mags its one of the best sports cars about. I would still have an elise though for the money ;)

I've seen a few of them about.... Nice ;)

Well countless mags cant be wrong. The clio is the better car. More fun to drive, faster and cheaper. If you want to go for a overweight, underpowered and more expensive fiesta then thats your choice. But dont come onto a clio site and start saying that the fiesta is a better car than the 182...

^^lol

pure mental man ;)

Yeah and they know what they are talking about unlike some! ;) They have driven hundreds of cars and can compare them in terms of handling! And I have yet to read a mag that says the s3 is more fun to drive than the 172/182. Not with all that weight!

But you could get a used s3 for the same as a new 182 ;)

Claire you cant compare the basic 1.2 clio against the top of the range st. Have you even driven a renaultsport?

Crashing a dci? Is that possible?? I didnt think they went fast enough!! ;) *Hides* ;)

From what Ive heard as well the s3 is as much fun to drive as a milk float ;) lol

You need the 172 cup then mate. You would have been all over him in the straights and going past him round the bends ;) J/K

So remind us why you have a 182 then if the S3 is such a superior car? ;)

A better driver? ;) J/k :P

You've just bought the car though! Tell the g/f to do one. lol

Sorry but if you've only been at pod theres a diff. More rubber there. And you didnt mention if your car is std.

Just fill the car up with bricks to get it lower.... Cheaper than the lowering springs and coilover rubbish ;)

Yawns! :-O

There is only one choice if your going for a bodykit on a clio... Look at this.... :-P OOOOHHH! ;)

I think the 182 wheels are 7's.

With 17" wheels on you will get overtaken by chav's in corsas and saxos! ;)

Cheers joe im going towards the osram as I've heard the phillips arent 100% silver, having a slight orange tinge.

In terms of indicators are the phillips or the osrams better? It says that the phillips wont melt any of the light unit. http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/default.asp?product.asp?numRecordPosition=2&P_ID=175&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=103

Thanks guys my 195 contis are lacking a bit of grip so i might put them on the back of my car and get some 205's for the front. Thinking about lowering it 40mm as well on apex's. That shouldnt affect the castor angle of the cup suspension setup should it? Cheers Fraser

Ali wouldnt it be better to get the widest tyre for the 172/182 models to improve traction and grip? Will a 215 fit a std 16" turini wheel?

Do you park out on the street or was it on your drive? If it was on the street then I wouldnt be suprised with some of the kn*bs about.

Has anyone got these -40mm springs on a 172 cup for me to look at? The 172 looks alot higher at the front than the back, and the turinis seem to make the gap look bigger than the 182. See what I mean?

How much have you lowered the mk1 172 by?

One question..... With the steering wheel sanded,primed and painted what happens with the airbag when you have a crash? Will it blow your hands off? Fraser