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If bought and stored I could see them retaining some of their value. If bought and driven every day I could see them depreciating down to early £20k figures in 2 years. Who in their right mind would do that?

This is the real shame...as it is what people want from Renault. Something special that can be driven day to day.

I find that particularly hard to stomach for what is in essence a £22k Clio with an end of line Megane engine shoehorned in and some deft Dremel work on the arches. They'll sell them all in no time though...they're almost as good as Apple at marketing!

There's going to be much LOLs and WTFs when Renault finally announce the price of this! I really hope it's within reach of mere mortals but suspect it won't be.

Low miles or ex demo won't do it for me, it needs to be one owner from new for top dollar in the future. There's a thread on RSOC asking about one owner low mile standard cars and there are surprisingly few still about it would seem. Some have nice low miles, some are standard, most have 2 or 3...

I want a Focus RS, just not yet. I'm happy in my ST, but the accountant in me wants RS depreciation (and eventually appreciation) long term. To maximise that though I want/need one of the last registered models on the last plate. The trouble with that is no one knows in advance when order...

I've learned..the hard £2k expensive way. I'll not make the same mistake again...although FPM375 does sound tempting LOL :mask:

I've no f***ing idea at all. I mean, who the f*** thinks handbrake turns are cool? Is it 1980 again?

Yeah, agreed, simple was not the right word to describe the manouvere, it was the right word to describe the ST driver though.

I've finally gotten used to it...it's certainly a lot better now I have grip from a set of AD08Rs and can use the extra torque...but I still maintain that, for the money at least, MP215 is the sweet spot for these things.

...oh my...I have no words...I'm ashamed that I drive the same car as this f**kwit...

Ballers wear both :tongueout:

You bet I was! When it was MP215 it made that...and that was £2k ago LOL

Thankfully it was an easy fix...ALL of the boost pipe clamps needed tightening. Normality restored :up:

I said Apple were not obliged to do anything. How can that be accurate? Basic contract law, that's how. As I said, Apple may offer to do something beyond that...but they don't have to.

It is/I was 100% accurate! His contract for the supply of goods was with his network provider. Apple were under no obligation whatsoever to provide any remedy at all. That they do so is entirely up to them...but they are not obliged to. You but a TV from Currys, it's faulty, Currys say one...

Your contract for supply of a functioning phone was with your service provider, they gave you a solution to your problem. That's where this tale should have ended. Yes there were plenty of f**k ups by the Apple people you spoke to but ultimately they were 100% correct. You're a customer of...

A-f**king-men

Someone on STOC spotted this sorry looking thing recently so took a picture...turns out it is the remnants from this great piece of driving skillz.

I think it may well have been a simple overtake, completely misjudged while trying to make/prove a point to the Astra estate ahead. No, not me!

...sadly a lot I see on the roads are not too far from this...

I did 125k miles from new in my 172 Cup, and 24k miles in my 200. Both of them on road and track...and the mileage I covered in both kind of tells you my answer to your original question. Given the option of one or the other (if I had somewhere to store and maintain it) it would be the 172 Cup...

Nope! Just googled it, not sure I'll bother with that either. After a day of playing with Nougat I'm liking it though.

I updated to Nougat this morning. I like the pull down and notification changes, split screen seems to work very well but not sure I'll ever use it. Time will tell. I also like that in the settings main menu, all of the sub menu options now show exactly what you have selected, status of that...

By default on track I brake with my left foot if no down shift is required and I try to cover the brake with my left foot through a corner regardless, a gentle brush mid turn can help get the nose in or settle it down if it's all gone a bit wayward. It also makes trail braking deep into the...

That's special.

Forgot to say thanks to @Fletcher , great camera work :up:

I think it sounds spot on, had the Mountune exhaust and sports cat on for 10k miles now and it seems to have bedded in nicely... Or is it just plain nasty?

LOL low 217bhp power run solved I think. I had the car up on stands today in order to diagnose a front suspension rattle...while under there I thought I'll just check the boost pipe clamps. All of them needed a slight pinch up, one quite a bit. Looking at the data from yesterday the car...

Oh yeah, i forgot to say thanks to Tim, ran like clockwork as usual. A good day was had.