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how much torques a 172 got though?

woooaaaa noooo!! 8th and 9th of feb is the renault sports club gumball to newquay, i wont be around at all!

ahh i mean a propper scooby.... old shape not these new slow ass things

and well still have our meet for the fun of it yea?? anyone in hampshire or willing to travel welcome! with any car u like!

can we play with ya wife? would she mind? ;)

old shape (dunno code) M3 bmw.. l/m reg i think it was vtr saxo gti-6 fiesta zetec s focus zetec

ok. well the dci (i think its dci) clio has about the same torque as the 172.. doesnt mean sh*t there though...

soz.. but we have gone from my 170 bhp diesel would beat a valver too give me 10 more break and ill eat scoobies... its just stupid! theyre way out of your league, mine too.. unless your spending £4000 - £5000 on a turbo conversion like nicks the u wont have a chance... ever

have u ever been in a scooby? it would not stand a chance. my dads tvr chimera had more power and torque than that and his scooby was still quicker.. torque really doesnt mean that much as u make out

but they have 280 odd bhp 4wd and a 2litre jap turbo. no chance. and scoobies hit 60 about 5 or less, wet doesnt make much different for them. if u really believe that a chipped tdi golf will keep up with a scooby u really know very little about cars....

very untrue id say..

what people are saying is.... your on about modded hdis and standard valvers. but if the valver has had the same money spent on it that u have spent on yours itd still win and neil... whos ya mate?

alfa 20 16v spider cav gsi 2000 volvo 480? turbo (old little hatch back)

328 bmw. - dead even all the way 320 sports coupe merc up to 70mph, then he flew past! astra gte 16v saxo vts lexus is 200

go out and race em then!

no i meant, your car doesnt have the mods yet, people are assuming u already do

damn it.. u know! - lol yeah no willy wheels anymore. gone for ultra lite, super ls induction kits gone, for bumper mounted direct cold air feed dunno where u got dimma skirts from?? oh and that red colour hurts my eyes

wicked, i cant wait to get my digi cam!! im gonna use it for everything!! car vids, car pics, pointless videos, home p**n (oops did i say that out loud?) and everything!! gotta get ben h to go, i wanna see his valver against a 172. craigy172 off ere might go too. ive told him bout it. he aint...

neil go to the other video topic.. am i right in what i typed?

i beat a gte 16v! was a close one!!

oh no, def in the future the way foward is gonna be diesel (god i hope not) with more and more powerful engines coming out. but thats why i like the old school classic hot hatches like ive got and the 205 gti, 5 turbo etc... b4 this i had a near enough new car, but it was sooo boring and...

but it is all torque down low, which can be a problem. look at the new civic type r - f**k all torque , everything up high, but how quick!!!!?? - bloody quick!

easy, centre of the wheel to bottom of arch

and kenny what mods u done mate?

right... kenny. group 11 insurance mate Neil. hi. handling wise. the clio was made for pure handling.. but its how hard your willing to push it... itll go a lot further than u expect.. but to do roundabouts and stuff u do need to get the gearing dead right!! cause its soo boggy...

no neils hasnt got any of that yet, but he wants it. but he still says hell beat a valver anyway

rhys, my manifold went on my old car and i was driving at like 6000 revs in third and only doing 25mph!! and it was loud a f**k!! i mean unbelievably loud!! u lose soo much power from it too!!

wanna come funky?

ok. c ya soon !!

oh and ben, there is no sat 6th of feb - LOL