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this explains it in american
ABS/ESP
Imagine the scenario; you�re driving along a road in the rain and you enter a sharp turn too quickly causing the rear end to slip out. What do you do? Most of us will brake and attempt to steer the car back on course, an action that can cause the car to...
Quote: Originally posted by MarkCup on 05 April 2005
I had the Ford version on my Mondeo and it was noticeable how much it got in the way if I ever forgot to turn it off.Theres roundabouts passing Chichester that are badly "dished" like a little ramp as you exit left. With TC enabled, it would...
Quote: Originally posted by badinvincible on 05 April 2005
Quote: Originally posted by telford_mike on 05 April 2005Why dont they fit it to performance cars like the V6? ;)
Or Mk1 172s...?:D
wasnt introduced until late in the 172 MKIIs life so thats why it wasnt on MKI, but the V6 is a...
Quote: Originally posted by Tom on 05 April 2005
<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #407db6">To be 100% honest here.<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #407db6">the 182 has scared me twice. both times were down to the esp sticking the rear brakes on for "no" reason.<FONT...
i guess that as its a rear wheel drive with better weight distribution and is likely to be someones track car they feel it doesnt need it maybe?
or maybe they didnt want to spend the money re-engineering it for the rear wheel drive on 1 car in the range?
I have no idea Mike!
Quote: Originally posted by CMRsi on 05 April 2005
just been down to my friendly local renault dealer for the first time since new (8 months) with my "wee list of problems", booked in for a couple of weeks timeOff centre steering wheel (since new)Clicky clutchClunky top engine mountcreaky...
Quote: Originally posted by Roy Munson on 05 April 2005
With ESP switched off, a 182 might be almost as quick as a Cup with it switched on :o
;)
and as far as this comment goes Mr Munson, why dont you get yourself booked on the Brands RS trackday and show us how you drive your cheap...
ok, guys, the ones that think esp being o doesnt make a difference 0-60,
a. have you been to pod and tried it?
b. why do all magazine test the 0-60 with the esp off?
all you need to do to see what I am talking about is to go out in the car and try accelerating very fast from a standstill...
Quote: Originally posted by Hippychick on 05 April 2005
LOL Im surprised tom wasnt standing in the back ground of all the pictures ;) ala Clarkson last year...:p
still the funniest thread ever:devilish:
not quite, its the traction control doing the holding back of the power under 5k, the ESP only comes in when you start to lose control, although both are turned off by the same button so you cant have one without the other.
is that better? (I am sh1t at explaining things!)
the kick is as you describe but if you have esp on it is ore pronounced as the traction control holds full power back until hitting 5k, with it off you have full reign of the power and thus when you reach 5k you already have more power so you will not notice the kick as much.
Give it a try...
the lack of urgency when planting the power below 5k is the traction control stopping you from using all power to prevent loss of traction, this is why when you turn esp off ( it also turns traction off) you get a more flat acceleration without as big a kick at 5k.
ESP comes in when you are...
just tell them to contact renault UK for the courtesy car, if one is not available at the dealer RUK will authorise a hire car for you, you should not go without although most dealers do not tell you this as it is hassle
you must have a bloody quick 172 if the V6 was not quicker on the straights as I can categorically say that it is!
The V6 is an amazing car and if if was to continue in production would be next on my list of cars to owm, the power delivery is amazing, handling supreme and the noise, looks...
or just hope you have one of the dodgy ones most of us have got that does it automatically for you when you lock the car too quickly after removing the keys, lot less hassle:p
Quote: Originally posted by Mitchy on 02 April 2005
Quote: Originally posted by AJRMOTORSPORT on 02 April 2005well they do 0-95 in 14.1 at santa pod sooooo...cant be far off!
Where have you got this from?Try 15secs @ around 94mph.
this is about right
i rarely use it, i will mgo out of mky way not to, and you should take pics before you make a claim as they might fill it in at any time!
good luck and sorry for your damage.
i have had major problems with this too and in the end I just did a quote with First Alternative on the web and got past all the awkward questions they ask by not haveing to answer them.
There is a tick box, Is your Car Modified from New To which I replied NO as it isnt, its as it came out of...
Quote: Originally posted by 182_blue on 31 March 2005
they dont stand up well to crashes do they ??ps hope your ok
I disagree, thats exactly how you want them to react, they take all the force and crumple keeping you safe, the clio is a 4* rating remember, one of the best in its class until...