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True. I sold my BG 182 as it depressed me :(

Thats my '197's have no presence' picture It comes out every now and again ;)

Look again ph-steelie Case dismissed ;)

dont show Winston ffs!!!!

I see you have compared it to a 1.2 Clio? ;) Standard 197 un cupped height, Bit of H&R magic, ;)

That is the Cup Chassis, the lower ride and stiffer spring rates..... nothing else :)

WTF????? These should be in the scrapper

Your Avatar is making me moist..... ;)

Albi FTW ;)

Nope. Fack all in it. I've had a 172 Cup, and a 182. The 197 is no different. They are bigger yes. Only downsides i feel abot the 197 is its buzzy in 6th, it is a little larger than it needs to be. The pro's, noise.... fantastic in standard form, seating/driving position, and looks. Has Much...

Mondial by a mile

I think the brakes on the MK2's are good tbh, just because they are not Brembo's doesnt mean they are poop.;) The single thing that lets the MK2 down is the seats, and driving position/huuuge steering wheel. Truley w**k, and in no way in keeping at what the car is good at. I also disagree with...

Nearly. Its an Espace lump. Diffrerent head etc. Its the base engine for all the Renaultsport Clio range. Looks reet that, but f**k knows why it sits soo high!!!!!

f**king imense!!!!

Talk b****cks?? :cool:

You and your stupid non factual comments should 'move on'.

PMSL........ deluded!!!! You really think they are built any differently one car to another??? They are all within a few tenths of each other speedwise.

Should get some Wax on there to seal it, as the paint is now unprotected

Nope nothing in it straight line tbh. I had my at the time standard 182 up against a 197 and it was nip and tuck tbh!!!!

WTF!???? Dreamer!!!! They all come out of the same factory :S

BTB FTW!!!!! Liked mine on the 182. I love VTS Paxo's. :approve:

ive heard the piper cams are very tappy........

Get some pics up, might help. I'd go for surface contamination or sprayed on too thick tbh......

Search Porter Cable, or PC on here. There's loooads of threads ;) Its a machine polisher

This was the state of my 182. I bought a PC and one night decided to have a play with it. So i washed down the door (just to the bumpstrip as i was only playing lol) Then put a strip of masking tape down the door to compare before and after lol. For 15 mins work, the correction was plain...

Thats the trouble with Black mate. I just went out and bought a PC, as i had a Black Gold 182. Tried EVERYTHING by hand, nothing really worked. Best quick fix i found was to Autoglym Super Resin polish the car, then use a Carnauba wax. This tends to hide the swirls, but only for a few weeks. One...

PC FTW tbh. Scatch X should be worked in with a terry towel, using lots of pressure. Keep rubbing untill the product has been worked in. Then buff off with a polishing cloth. Hard work but it does work.

Looks reet that mon ;) !!!!, better than i thought actually

Dreamer

I'll have a gander on the lass's VTR, pretty much the same set up??? Cant say i've noticed. I do like a nice VTS :)