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Just reading through the French car magazine which covered all the models and it suggests the 172cup is the most hardcore, no abs etc...

Thanks guys, considering 172 cup or 182 cup for a track car, basically the 182 is carrying approximately 4 bags of cement extra that's alot, doubt a 6 point cage is that heavy. The mods would be the same in either car, so the 172 would always be about 80kg lighter.

How much does a non modified 172 cup weigh

Yep, but it was 30 years ago! Need find some pics of the R12 rwd V6, now that car surprised a few....

Exactly, the current one is a stayer...

Dug these pics out for Dr Jeckyll and anyone else who might be interested... Good 30years ago now, my friends cars except the white Alpine310 4cyl which he was working on, was lucky enough to experience these cars first hand and get my hands dirty along the way:cool: The yellow R8 he bulit...