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Found this http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-198833-renault-to-share-production-of-clio-between-turkey-france.html Looks like new clio won't be coming out for a while.

I think the new meg is fugly!!:(

N/a all the way!! hate front wheel drive turbo cars, screws the handling:mad:

Just spoke to Renault Brum. Clio 4 will be out late 2012. So is it normally round 6 months later the RS comes out???

Seriously!! if its out in 2011, i may as well wait for the next Rs then lol

Hi all, been a member for ages but never posted lol. Used to own a valver bout 8 years ago. Awesome little car. Thinking about an R27. Before splashing the best part of 10.5k tho, does anyone know of a new shape out next year, or will clio 4 appear around 2013 like some websites are saying...

clio 172 ph1 price?? Evening all, please can u stop watching x factor for one sec. Posted the other day saying what would you go for: mk5 gti or 197. Now gonna keep my beeza for daily driver. Cousins mates selling a ph1, 90k, 16 inch oz's, £2400. Too high?

Thnx, i'll have to see about a quote.

Didn't know that Warren. Sounds like there a good car. How about insurance, is there much diff between group 15 & 17 in price. Insurance is high for me due to two claims in the last 2 years :(

You've got a point on the mpg. I haven't driven a golf either, heard that its a great car, but surely wouldn't have a chassis as honed as the renault??

went to swap my beeza for the clio 197. Said to the chap, got any docs on if its been in a crash. Oh yeah the cars cat d. He wants 8,795 for it. Probably worth 6k. Was getting really excited, no way i'm gonna buy that. It'll be worthless come re-sale.

Thanks for all the comments guys. Love Trophys but want something newer. Going to see how much they'll give me for my beeza against the 197.

Yeah, thats what i'm thinking. The golf would probably get boring. Not really into low pressure turbo cars. Mom used to have a uk supra twin turbo, now thats proper turbo rush!

Hi everyone, New to the forum, used to have a valver mk1 years ago. Cars i've had up to now never put a smile on my face like the clio. Got around 8.5k to spend on a new motor. Thinking 197 or mk5 golf gti. Any 197 owners driven a gti, whats it like compared? e.g handling, performance compared...