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GRIFF - sorry not to good with engines! hence why my mate spotted the oil on the tray and not me Danny Boy - yeah i hope so too, seen two over priced ones in well average condition before this one though

pulled the yellow cap off the engine and the oil was full to the brim

it was serviced by a renault dealer only 4 months ago! oil didn't really smell but it was on the outside facing the road not dripping. if its normally a sloppy oil change it rests inside the tray facing the engine doesnt it

oh dear that don't sound to good. it was fairly thick and all over the cover. Didn't look at the dipstick cos the engine was still too hot. Would you notice anything in the gear change cos it was better than my current car?

gotta part ex the pug though :( Seen loads of 172 with 30k + on for 7,500. Just it was absolutely mint not a ding any where and had well low milage

Yeah thats was we thought. It was serviced at a renault dealer. Managed to knock the guy down to 8.5k which I thought was pretty reasonable considering I saw a cup in much worse condition for the same price earlier today

Finally decided to part ex my 307 pug and get a 172. Been to carland (yeah i know!) today and found an absolute mint 03 plate 172 with only 11,400 miles on the clock. It had 182 wheels on it but there wasn't a single scratch or ding in the body work. Just two things that concered me was that it...