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Well the original STi was basically a WRX, no upgraded engine mods or the likes, the 2 was upgraded and the 3 came with a close deck block (stronger engine). 10k should get you a good 2/3, the 4 was meant to be the best (in some peoples books) but i would look at these cars carefully as alot...

I do admit that i have never looked back after buying the scoob (except i want a newer one now as mine is nearly 3 yrs old) but if you can afford it then do buy one, if you cannot afford it then dont, buying one and not being able to run it is a sin itself..... Tony

Oh who said STi? No doubt the garage have said that the running costs are around the same as your clio (if they did they would be lying!) as you will need to take into consideration a few factors before even attempting to buy an Import STi. First of all, the car only runs on SUL (super...

The SO2S are now extinct ..... i would go for the Goodyear IMHO (i have SO2 PPs on my car) but the GSd3s are meant to be very good. Tony

And here we are, about 2 weeks later after virtually everyone was sticking up for ABS and now lots of people want to disable it! Oh well........ Tony

I acutally think that the old 16v renaults look more dated than the 306s, and having gone from one to another i can say they were different beasts completely. Rich, as for the gti-6 engine being anyway different to the rallyes.... i dunno about that as ive seen rallyes that only push out...

And here we are, about 2 weeks later after virtually everyone was sticking up for ABS and now lots of people want to disable it! Oh well........ Tony

I acutally think that the old 16v renaults look more dated than the 306s, and having gone from one to another i can say they were different beasts completely. Rich, as for the gti-6 engine being anyway different to the rallyes.... i dunno about that as ive seen rallyes that only push out...

LOL! ;) The fact is that the 106 GTi doesnt have the gearing to make 145mph in the first place (even into the red) so its a bit of a joke (and 14.5mph out). Tony

Hmm this is going off topic abit but ill add my part anyway. Having come from a R19 16v to a 306 GTi-6 i can say that its one storming car, now between a 172 and a GTi6 i would say that there is nothing in it as you cannot really compare a 6 speed car against a 5 speed car (the GTi-6 is...

Will, if your going to rolling road your car then fit the original chip and run with that then change to the other chip afterwards (within 10 mins or so) as anything else wont be acceptable due to the conditions of the day (which is the only thing thats variable). Tony

LOL! ;) The fact is that the 106 GTi doesnt have the gearing to make 145mph in the first place (even into the red) so its a bit of a joke (and 14.5mph out). Tony

Hmm this is going off topic abit but ill add my part anyway. Having come from a R19 16v to a 306 GTi-6 i can say that its one storming car, now between a 172 and a GTi6 i would say that there is nothing in it as you cannot really compare a 6 speed car against a 5 speed car (the GTi-6 is...

Will, if your going to rolling road your car then fit the original chip and run with that then change to the other chip afterwards (within 10 mins or so) as anything else wont be acceptable due to the conditions of the day (which is the only thing thats variable). Tony

Hmmm i do really doubt that they can guarantee a 15bhp increase, maybe 5-7bhp and a few extra pounds of torque but its quite hard getting much more out of a N/A engine without better breathing mods/uprated cams etc. What your probably feeling is the fact that your car now goes to 7k rpm, but...

Hmmm i do really doubt that they can guarantee a 15bhp increase, maybe 5-7bhp and a few extra pounds of torque but its quite hard getting much more out of a N/A engine without better breathing mods/uprated cams etc. What your probably feeling is the fact that your car now goes to 7k rpm, but...

Hmmmmm Rob, i like your picture of the clio cup on the other page but your car will be doing that with its ABS rather than a cup! Alot of people are relying on tech here, ive driven off road vehicles in snow, through mud and water and there is one thing that gets you, simple things in absurd...

Jonto, ive a classic shaped turbo with PPP and scoobymania downpipe (plus uprated alloys and brakes) running 15psi (263bhp and 243lbs of torque). As for the PPP on the STi7 type UK, i wouldnt really go the way of ecutek on that, simply because the warranty is worth much more than a few...

Hmmmmm Rob, i like your picture of the clio cup on the other page but your car will be doing that with its ABS rather than a cup! Alot of people are relying on tech here, ive driven off road vehicles in snow, through mud and water and there is one thing that gets you, simple things in absurd...

Jonto, ive a classic shaped turbo with PPP and scoobymania downpipe (plus uprated alloys and brakes) running 15psi (263bhp and 243lbs of torque). As for the PPP on the STi7 type UK, i wouldnt really go the way of ecutek on that, simply because the warranty is worth much more than a few...

Get yourself a clifford blackjack unit, even with the keys they aint going very far ;o) Tony

Tom has it spot on, and as for the cup.... it will be better at stopping than the 172 on snow so there! So as we have all been here before, lets talk about grip, and lack of it in snow and ice. You are not indestructable with ABS so dont think you are, you will actually be hindered with it in...

Get yourself a clifford blackjack unit, even with the keys they aint going very far ;o) Tony

Tom has it spot on, and as for the cup.... it will be better at stopping than the 172 on snow so there! So as we have all been here before, lets talk about grip, and lack of it in snow and ice. You are not indestructable with ABS so dont think you are, you will actually be hindered with it in...

If it was one of the first V5s then it would have 150bhp (they increased the power later as it was slow). Tony

If it was one of the first V5s then it would have 150bhp (they increased the power later as it was slow). Tony

Jonto, your correct there mate! What i will say to add to that though is that a Uk STi7 with PPP is an extremely quick car (ie it is actually rated quicker by .1 of a second to 100 than the E46 M3). There are less transmission losses and the new STis have semi close decked blocks, a 6 speed...

Jonto, your correct there mate! What i will say to add to that though is that a Uk STi7 with PPP is an extremely quick car (ie it is actually rated quicker by .1 of a second to 100 than the E46 M3). There are less transmission losses and the new STis have semi close decked blocks, a 6 speed...

I think the advantage of 4wd would have whooped a fwd car (being the owner of both an AWD and fwd car). Tony

Ben j, Yup ;)