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I think you should all have another look. It is an interesting use of black and has some real artistic merit. Note the subtle shading around the disc and the juxtaposition of the bright metal showing through the dark overlay. The bright clean new paint also contrasts nicely with the rough...

I've recently driven a couple of late breadvan CTRs and have to say that I was underwhelmed. They are crazy prices for what they are and unless you really need the extra space the 182 wins hands down. For the same money as an average CTR you will be looking at a mint 182 and probably newer too...

I was last on here in 2005 when I had a 182 with Cup packs which I had bought new from Renault Wolverhampton in 2004. Great car but proved too small for us with new baby... Wish I still had it though! I now have an R27 also in black and can't believe how good it is, how much space there...

Thanks everyone - nice to know I can save some money on anti-perspirant!

Just a quick question on the std. spec. - Air con included? Obviously Climate was an option at extra cost!