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obviously newer cars are more isolated from what happens in the tarmac, ok, but i was talking about the oversteer nature of these old PSA hatches. That brings you a lot of fun, but also makes you feel less confident in fast corners so your speed drops.

Clios have coil springs and 306gti and xsara have torsion bars, ok, but the rear axle is pretty much the same, a torsion axle, isn't it?

Why not comparing these cars? They all have a N/A 2 liter engine, torsion beam rear axle, stiff dumping, similar weights, close ratio gearboxes... Xsara VTS, 306gti -> fun to drive 200 -> quick, much more grip, almost as fun 172 -> a bit quicker in straight line than the vts, easier to drive...

I owned a Xsara VTS for 8 years that is almost a 306gti with a different bodywork. It is virtualy he same chassis, same engine, same weight... everything was more or less the same but the gearchange, 5 gears in the Xsara, 6 in the peugeot but with shorter 1st, 2nd and 3rd in the Citroen. Now, i...

Yes, the 197 wheels are the same. The main differences between the 197 and the 200 are only the bodywork and the mapping of the engine ECU.

Yes, I liked the black Speedlines, but the optional alloys added 500€ more to the budget and my wife said 22K€ for a Clio was enough :(

Here are some pics: http://picasaweb.google.es/lh/photo/tDGvw7L4C1LXJcyooXQhC95iX2qRoaLa-mi4pa4TFGM?feat=directlink http://picasaweb.google.es/lh/photo/8O9qinpMiXuzK6h4hCz7jd5iX2qRoaLa-mi4pa4TFGM?feat=directlink

HI! I'm a new member from Spain. Hello everybody. I own a white Clio RS 200 with cup Chassis and Recaros. I'm very satisfied of the car. It's an amazing driver's car. Have to thnks Renault for selling such a car for only 22K€. Before the Clio, I owned a Xsara VTS 167. Nice car too, very...