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Blackdiamond Predators vs EBC Yellow stuff
- Thread starter Bramley
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Scattle
ClioSport Club Member
Nissan R35 GTR
I have the Blackdiamond Predators on mine and I think they are good.
They take a little while to warm up when you first use the brakes but the stopping power I find is much better than standard pads and they bite better. I managed to find them Cheapest from DemonTweeks on Ebay for £54 delivered.
I done two sessions at FCS and they done well there and I used them quite hard.
I reckon DS2500's would be better than them, but for £54 you can't really complain.
Cannot comment on Yellowstuff as I have never tried them.
ITB'd MK1
neither! RUN AWAY!!!!!
Yellowstuff destroy discs.
Is that personal experience?
Is that personal experience?
Yup. Barely lost any pad thickness but munched a pair of EBC discs (which I'll never ever recommend) in under 10K miles.
ITB'd MK1
EBC pads in general crumble and fall apart, and offer poor braking to start with. I feel unsafe in a car if i know it has EBC pads fitted
withoutabix
ClioSport Club Member
if its for road use then just stick to standard
they must be cheaper than other performance pads
they must be cheaper than other performance pads
I've heard this about other ebc pads but also heard the yellows were different.
What about the black diamonds?
I suppose that could be partly the discs been poo aswell tho.
Any other pads similar price?
ITB'd MK1
they're a chavvy branded "upgrade" you'll be better off with well maintained calipers and brand new standard everything. If you want better pads go for Mintex 1144, perfect balance or quality and price for fast road use. I'm looking at prices of Pagid disks at the moment, although as long as disks are of a decent quality (ie not too soft) then it makes little difference which you use. I have ATE disks on my own car. OE quality.
ITB'd MK1
brembo hc are completely standard, no better than anyting else standard, just a known name FYI
david hodson
ClioSport Club Member
they should be called EBC brown (ur pants)
david hodson
ClioSport Club Member
Do brembo HC not have a higher carbon content then standard discs?
Brembo Plain discs, done.
182cup & 172 racecar
I thought this as the hc does stand for high carbon
Seat Ibiza
Alot of people on here have had bad experience of EBC, sounds like their made of toffee!
I'll be in the market soon for front discs and pads, think i'll be getting Bembro HC's and either Mintex 1144 or DS2500.
Reading quite a few threads, this seems to be the setup. Tried and tested mate, thats what you want!! And the above seem to come out on top with the boys in the know!!
I'll be in the market soon for front discs and pads, think i'll be getting Bembro HC's and either Mintex 1144 or DS2500.
Reading quite a few threads, this seems to be the setup. Tried and tested mate, thats what you want!! And the above seem to come out on top with the boys in the know!!
182cup & 172 racecar
M1144 are fine for the road,I have them in my daily no problem.Will let you down after a few laps on a track day though.
We run EBC yellows in the race car this year and they have been great.
We run EBC yellows in the race car this year and they have been great.
What's the life line like on the ebc?
What's the life line like on the ebc?
182cup & 172 racecar
Not a clue mate,the car has done two races,two test days and a track day.All in all about 5 hrs,so no comparison to day to day running.
Thats because they cost about £200.00
406 V6, Race Buggy
Yes, but Pagids, and Carbotech, and some of the PF compounds which are all around this sort of money, tend to outlast cheaper performance pads 10-1.
So although it sounds a lot of money up front, they actually work out a lot cheaper in the long run.
I tried allsorts on the front of our racer, EBCs, Mintex, nearly all the wilwood compounds, best I had was pads lasting 1.5 events with Wilwoods endurance racing compound, but they ate a set of discs every other event instead.
Switched to Carbotech XP8's, which were twice the price up front, they've now done 12 events, only half worn so far, and they haven't worn the discs at all (literally nothing, can't even measure it).
With the added bonus that they're more powerful and more consistant to boot.
Sometimes it's worth paying the extra up front.
182cup & 172 racecar
We ran pf97's last year all year and they are now in Dan Freemans car and will last him through this year and next.
EBC discs are not good. Stick with good quality OEM discs.
However EBC Yellowstuff are fine and great for the money IMO. They are better than 1144 for two reasons; they don't fade at moderate track pace like 1144 and don't dust much which is great for road use. With the Yellows they can be used on the road or track if you ever did in the future (or just very hard road use).
PF, Pagid and Carbotech are all 3/4x times price, they are obviously better pads but they're not 4x better braking (nothing can be really hehe) but IME Yellowstuff last a decent lenght of time and for what you're asking sound like the ones to use (IMO).
However EBC Yellowstuff are fine and great for the money IMO. They are better than 1144 for two reasons; they don't fade at moderate track pace like 1144 and don't dust much which is great for road use. With the Yellows they can be used on the road or track if you ever did in the future (or just very hard road use).
PF, Pagid and Carbotech are all 3/4x times price, they are obviously better pads but they're not 4x better braking (nothing can be really hehe) but IME Yellowstuff last a decent lenght of time and for what you're asking sound like the ones to use (IMO).
Agreed with the pointless post.
406 V6, Race Buggy
The newer Bluestuff NDX are an even better proposition if you're on a budget.
