ok people heres the news, it was better... however, i was running a open air K&N 57i kit before which was most probobly loosing me power. however it jus seem a tiny bit more beefy low end. and i did upgrade the CAF where the valve was. i would recommed this if you have a hour or two on your hands as it will help a little, espec with uprgraded CAF's and a pannel filter from ktec or ITG etc. dont expect much though. but its a start.