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How much do 17 slow a valver down by
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Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
17s for show 16s for go.
Doubt it will make that much difference it depends on the weight of the rim
Well i know very few people have them but i was thinking along the lines of Prima racing alloys (the maxi style ones if you will) - dont know how much they weigh in comparision to others though.
I actually used to have them in 16" and found my turbines looked better at the time (as my 16v was basicalkly std) but for what ive got planned bodywork wise i think 15s will look a little punny TBH. Its either keep the turbines or go 17" i think....
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_Tom
ClioSport Club Member
When i put 17s on my car i honestly couldnt tell the diffrence but when i changed back down to 15s i could. Strange i know!
17s dont slow you that much really! It just picks up before 4k a little quicker. I find that my car handles better on 17s than it does on standards though.
If your puttin skirts and that on 17s are the way to go imo!
Ill do you a PX for your turbines if your interested, mint 17" toora platinum 8s
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Firstly i agree Tom 16v...
"When i put 17s on my car i honestly couldnt tell the diffrence but when i changed back down to 15s i could. Strange i know!"
- this is the same as me! I got my car on 15"s - put 17"s on it to make it look better and had them on it for 2 years-ish - never really noticed the difference that much although did a bit!
BUT
After changing back to 15"s there is NO WAY i would ever put 17"s on my clio again!! With your car with the mods your doing you may need more than turbines....fair enough......
But 15"s are the best wheels for valvers - end of!!
So in your case maybe the prima maxi wheels in 16"s as a style/performance compromise??
http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1082808609__prima.jpg
quick photoshop of the prima maxi in 17s
Cheers for the help folks!
As i said i used to have the prima wheels in 16" (then sold them to fatherted on here) as i didnt feel they looked "right"...IMO the spoke stuck out a bit too much on a 16" rim. Since then, i saw this pic of them in 17" and love them!;
http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1091404590__CIMG0976.jpg
Tricky decision i think! I know the 15s are THAT much better (even felt it coming down from 16") but im beginning to sway to the 17s as i dont have the same need to race every single car on the road anymore so am not so fussed about performance. As i said, with the parts im going to be fitting i should probably wait and see what like it looks before digging the old credit card out....?
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Quote: Originally posted by Tom16v on 06 August 2004
Everyone talks like its a massive difference! It aint! Noticable yes!
My valver still seems to beat most cars on the road and more to the point, most cars seem to run 17s nowadays!
Youll still have your 15s too for when you get bored or if you go 1/4 miling!
Ill have to agree to disagree with you there mate!!
Its not just the sraight line acceleration thats so affected - cos i admit it aint that bad. But its also the handling and sharpness of turning etc that is ruined by 17"s!! And it is ruined by 17"s!!
If your going for looks then go for 17"s mate! Thats what i did 2 years ago when i fitted em!
But now im going performance 15"s are the only choice for me!
_Tom
ClioSport Club Member
See this is what i dont understand really?! When i had my standard phase2s on and i tried to corner with any pace my car would drift all over the place and the front lost traction stupily easily. With the 17s theyre is much better traction and i can push the car much more.Quote: Originally posted by G16NNN on 06 August 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Tom16v on 06 August 2004
Everyone talks like its a massive difference! It aint! Noticable yes!
My valver still seems to beat most cars on the road and more to the point, most cars seem to run 17s nowadays!
Youll still have your 15s too for when you get bored or if you go 1/4 miling!
Ill have to agree to disagree with you there mate!!
Its not just the sraight line acceleration thats so affected - cos i admit it aint that bad. But its also the handling and sharpness of turning etc that is ruined by 17"s!! And it is ruined by 17"s!!
If your going for looks then go for 17"s mate! Thats what i did 2 years ago when i fitted em!
But now im going performance 15"s are the only choice for me!
Whys this? It seems to go against what everybody says! and dont want any bold tyre comments!
as has been said, there isnt much of a difference. the only disadvantage i feel is when pulling off from stand still, but once your rolling it doesnt matter imo! after all, the overall diameter of 17s with 205/40 and 15s with 145/55(iirc! is that right) isnt much different!
the only other thing i would think about is youve got the wider track from a willy havent you, which means your gonna have more clearance problems than a normal valver! E.g. eves willy on 16s rubs like a f**ker, and full lock is just a fantasy for him!Ridiculous! looks the f**king nuts tho!
regards
Quote: Originally posted by Tom16v on 06 August 2004
See this is what i dont understand really?! When i had my standard phase2s on and i tried to corner with any pace my car would drift all over the place and the front lost traction stupily easily. With the 17s theyre is much better traction and i can push the car much more.Quote: Originally posted by G16NNN on 06 August 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Tom16v on 06 August 2004
Everyone talks like its a massive difference! It aint! Noticable yes!
My valver still seems to beat most cars on the road and more to the point, most cars seem to run 17s nowadays!
Youll still have your 15s too for when you get bored or if you go 1/4 miling!
Ill have to agree to disagree with you there mate!!
Its not just the sraight line acceleration thats so affected - cos i admit it aint that bad. But its also the handling and sharpness of turning etc that is ruined by 17"s!! And it is ruined by 17"s!!
If your going for looks then go for 17"s mate! Thats what i did 2 years ago when i fitted em!
But now im going performance 15"s are the only choice for me!
Whys this? It seems to go against what everybody says! and dont want any bold tyre comments!
Shouldnt have had bold tyres....
Seriously though, maybe you had worse tyres on your 15"s that werent as grippy as your better tyres on your 17"s??
Did you alter the suspension setup of your car after fitting your 17"s?? Your car looks fairly low?
_Tom
ClioSport Club Member
Funny Guy!Quote: Originally posted by G16NNN on 06 August 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Tom16v on 06 August 2004
See this is what i dont understand really?! When i had my standard phase2s on and i tried to corner with any pace my car would drift all over the place and the front lost traction stupily easily. With the 17s theyre is much better traction and i can push the car much more.Quote: Originally posted by G16NNN on 06 August 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Tom16v on 06 August 2004
Everyone talks like its a massive difference! It aint! Noticable yes!
My valver still seems to beat most cars on the road and more to the point, most cars seem to run 17s nowadays!
Youll still have your 15s too for when you get bored or if you go 1/4 miling!
Ill have to agree to disagree with you there mate!!
Its not just the sraight line acceleration thats so affected - cos i admit it aint that bad. But its also the handling and sharpness of turning etc that is ruined by 17"s!! And it is ruined by 17"s!!
If your going for looks then go for 17"s mate! Thats what i did 2 years ago when i fitted em!
But now im going performance 15"s are the only choice for me!
Whys this? It seems to go against what everybody says! and dont want any bold tyre comments!
Shouldnt have had bold tyres....
Seriously though, maybe you had worse tyres on your 15"s that werent as grippy as your better tyres on your 17"s??
Did you alter the suspension setup of your car after fitting your 17"s?? Your car looks fairly low?
When i bought the clio it was completely standard. I then got it lowered about 45mil and 2 weeks after that i got 17s.
Lowered on 17s has always been the best for the car. As for tyres, if anything i have better tyres on the standards.
I did test this aswell mind as about a month ago i put my standards on. On a roundabout i could take at 60 no probs with 17s i could only take at 50 and be really on the limit with standards.
But ive never understood this because everyone else says the opposite.....
Thats a fair point about the willy track m8. However, i think the problems eves has is down to the wheel width rather than circumferance - my 1.8 looks as low as his and i have no problems but then again my wheels are standard width (6") wheras his will probably be 7" - if prima do the wheels in 17*6.5 i think i should be ok....
Felixwood - i know exactly what you mean - and the differance that you feel is GRIP! The 17"s grip better as there is greater tyre contact on the road!
However that is not alone a formula for better handling!
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