Im confused!!!! Part buying woes

[dajones]

right seeing as i have the head off my clio (d4f 1.2 16v) its time for me to get new headbolts and gaskets now the confusing bit
how many am i actually buying if i order each of these once? (quantity in the pack)

manifold gasket
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Renault_Clio_1.10_2005/p/car-parts/engine-parts/engine-parts1/car-gasket-seals/?372745160&1&a1c923da053675f950b46180722ca6ad433ae1cc&000462

Headbolts
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Renault_Clio_1.10_2005/p/car-parts/engine-parts/engine-parts1/head-bolts/?300700070&1&8af5f7231674fdbbd5a96f4a75f80a8288d2069a&000488

apart from the oil and the actual head gasket (exhaust looks like new) what am i missing from my shopping list? and would you know of cheaper places?

Thanks :approve:

 

[MicKPM]

Head bolts almost always come as a pack so you need to order x1... if ECP are charging £19 each then i'm gonna be quids in under cutting them!

Don't buy those gaskets - if you buy a decent quality "head set" for the vehicle it will come with them along with cylinder head gasket, exhaust manifold gasket, camshaft oil seals, valve stem seals, etc.

 

[dajones]

Hi Mick. Ecp are showing the headset is unavailable for my car. Price anyway is 110 where could I try next?

 

[Fred@BTM]

Pm maynard, he works for GSF

 

[dajones]

Aah cheers Fred will get on it I had 14 valves bent in the head. No damage to the pistons which is good.

 

[Fred@BTM]

do all 16 in my opinion then

you know how to lap in valves etc etc?

 

[dajones]

Fred I have a replacement head sorted so just going to get that skimmed and stuff so no need to buy valves

 

[Fred@BTM]

why does it need skimming?

 

[dajones]

thought it was standard procedure fred

 

[Fred@BTM]

no real need to skim the head if there's nothing wrong with it, just clean it up, check its flat and whack it on

 

[dajones]

ok nice one.

Do i clean the pistons while i see them? ive given them a quick squirt with wd and attacked them with blueroll but theyre still caked in carbon.
and what do you recomend cleaning the head faces with?

 

[Fred@BTM]

this is where you insert 10 different opinions on whats the correct method LOL

 

[dajones]

what would you do lol

 

[Fred@BTM]

no comment as someone who's read a book on being a mechanic will no doubt throw in some form of critism to my method LOL!

several ways you can clean the face of a head, i've seen people use air powered orbital da's with fine paper before!

 

[dajones]

sent a pm i have an idea on scraping a old card (probably a varsity card) with degreaser over the face anything must be better than that lol

 

[MicKPM]

Re: I'm confused!!!! Part buying woes

what would you do lol

Check the mating surfaces are clean and true as Fred said above then whack on the new gasket with new bolts and be done.

Cleaning mating surfaces is contentious as hell - just DON'T use a wire brush, grinder, etc or anything too abrasive as it'll mark the face and reduce its ability to seal correctly. Similarly *some* people use a fine grit paper such as 1200-2000 grit but you can go too much in one area if you're not carefull which causes other issues. Personally, I use an acetone solution to dissolve carbon and gasket deposits... I think Fred does to.

Mick

 

[Fred@BTM]

air chisel infact Mick

 

[MicKPM]

West Midlands "precision" engineering for THE mutha-funking win mate... you can use a 5lb lump hammer to smooth out the low points to I hear

 

[dajones]

Shall I just go all out ans drag it behind a mates car?