New key needed and car doesn't start.

[Jekyll]

Save me making two threads im going to combine both my queries in one.

A few weeks ago i did this (I cant even remember how )

Anyway since that has happened every now and again my car seems to fail to start and comes up with the red dot constantly flashing up on the dash, however its happened a hell of a lot over this weekend. I've been twisting the ignition on and off until the light goes off then starting it up but today it just gave up and doesn't want to start at all. Thread searching seems to point to the immobiliser. However, i know i need a new key which will be bought asap, but is this causing the car to not start?

The car cranks over no problem, just doesn't fire up.

Would a new key resolve this issue?

I have a spare key but the same happens. It also doesn't do the central locking, but being a spare this has never concerned me, but thought i'd add it just in case.

Also, where do i get a new key from? Local dealers?

Thanks, Mark.

 

[Mar172]

Local renault dealers that's what I have been told

 

[1812lsd]

I have a spare case you can have, but you may have damaged the circuit board. Take the key apart and check the pcb, see if it can be fixed with a bit of carefully applied solder.

 

[Jekyll]

Ultimately I will need a new key anyway so I'm going to enquire how much a new will be.

I'm also reading lambda sensors can also cause an issue, on which both of mine are out I tho k so I shall replace these also. I have a mutual friend that can get the key coded so there's a saving there.

 

[STEVE.M]

Ultimately I will need a new key anyway so I'm going to enquire how much a new will be.

I'm also reading lambda sensors can also cause an issue, on which both of mine are out I tho k so I shall replace these also. I have a mutual friend that can get the key coded so there's a saving there.

Hi Mark,there is a guy on here in Hitchin,has just posted breaking phase 1,user name BEALEHERE,wants £100 for Ecu,keys,barrel,UCH,will probably also have sensors,or sell cat complete.
I was quoted £120 for a spare key.Hope you get it sorted ,Steve

 

[Dan@SJM]

Don't go changing the ecu and key set. It causes more issues than it's worth in the future.

ph1 keys come pre-coded from Renault now, complete with blade @ ~£130.

 

[Diagro]

Or

Buy virgin key off eBay £20
Put blade in it £0
Have a garage programme to your car £25 to £50 depending on garage.

 

[AlexW]

I can program it, and get keys cheapish.

 

[Edges]

I can program it, and get keys cheapish.

How much we talking? I've always been bugged about only having 1 key so another would be nice.. Plus mine fails to start occasionally

 

[Jekyll]

I'm now thinking it's not key related, although I will get one.

It just seems odd that both my keys won't start the ignition and my dash has the same continuous flashing red dot when both are turned. I'm pretty sure that my spare has started the car before.

 

[Timmsy]

New key can be got from here mate (unless Alex is even cheaper)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251305213382?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Then get Alex to program it

 

[masekwm]

I can program it, and get keys cheapish.

How much do you charge Alex? I need another key as mine sometimes doesn't work

 

[R-Sport.]

Last time this happened to me it was the TDC sensor

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[Fantom]

Could try this. I had my key repaired and it worked a treat

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-C...cessories_Safety_Security&hash=item2a315bffb8

 

[Jekyll]

My car now starts! One of our painter guy's brother took the spare key to he's work and got the info out of the chip and fixed the problem. Not sure how but it works!

He said to get a gen replacement not eBay jobbies and he'll reprogram it for me as mine doesn't do central locking. Happy days. A quote from Renault was £153 Inc vat and a week to come in as there ordered from France.

 

[Michaelfoz]

Don't go changing the ecu and key set. It causes more issues than it's worth in the future.

ph1 keys come pre-coded from Renault now, complete with blade @ ~£130.

Just off the phone to my local dealership, they have quoted me £96 for a new "plip" however they then said I'll be an additional £50 for the plip to be coded to the car
I mentioned that they come precoded for the ph1 and he assured me that they only come partially coded but then must be programmed to the ECU. Is that correct?

It certainly didn't happen the last time I ordered a key, it came straight out of the bag and worked first time

 

[Jekyll]

@Michaelfoz That's what happened with mine. They ordered it in from France which took about a week and then I drove to the dealership which cost me £30 extra for final programme which took 1/2 hour They knocked off the vat for me though on the programing which was nice


New genuine Renault key by Dr-Jekyll, on Flickr


Genuine key programme reciept by Dr-Jekyll, on Flickr

 

[MicKPM]

Could try this. I had my key repaired and it worked a treat

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-C...cessories_Safety_Security&hash=item2a315bffb8

Just be careful with some of the copy keys as I know the cards cannot be programmed by a dealer/CLIP and need to be done on something else.

 

[Michaelfoz]

think i'm going to try the guy on ebay

it doesnt actually sound like a replacement, more of a repair to the key itself
I've got 1 key which won't unlock the car but works perfectly in the ignition (lock are siezed due to lack of use)

and another key which unlocks and starts the car however every noe and again it doesnt disengage the immobiliser. had this issue before and after a while it just bit the dust and left me stranded lol