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Not your usual how much is it worth thread!



  172/vx220t/m135i
Firstly, due to change of circumstances and the need for a practical 5 door car, I'm gutted to be having to sell my 172 flamer after nearly 4 years of thorough enjoyment.

Secondly, this forum has been a pleasure to frequent, although I have been more of a lurker over the years than a heavy poster, when I have required any advice the responses have always been positive and helpful. It still amazes me how complete strangers will go out of their way to help a fellow enthusiast in their pursuit for answers!

Now onto the car, a mark 2, 51 plate 172 which has just eased past the 100k mark. Condition is good, completely standard with the usual age related marks you would expect from a car this age, shines up lovely after a good polish. Inside the car is immaculate except for the drivers right thumb grip on the steering wheel is half torn away. The rear seats look like they have never really been used!

When I viewed the car there was no service book, however based on the receipts and invoices present, including the all important Cambelt change, I decided to buy on condition and it being a straight car. I have since maintained and addressed any issues along the way so there is plenty of invoices/ receipts of work carried out. The belts were changed including dephasher at btm a couple of years ago so good for a few more years. Disks and pads all round are good and its been serviced regularly with the right oil and service kits from renault. I have replaced lots of other parts such as the handbrake cable, battery, springs, shocks etc etc. The mot is not up until around June next year and tax until early next year I think. The only thing I was planning to do was change to winter tyres as my fronts are running low anyway but I won't be bothering now.

How much should I be looking at based on the details provided?

Now I need to factor in how much to knock off for my brother who has expressed an interest in buying! He is not really into cars like I am, but knows that it would have been looked after and his current car is ready for the knackers yard! He's looking to replace pretty soon and would get a flight from Aberdeen where he currently lives and drive the 430 miles, 9 hours drive back!!

So what would be a fair price to sell to a brother?! Or is it just a bad idea?! I kind of like the thought of it staying in the family and maybe later down the line I could buy it back, its kind of funny how you get attached to certain cars, especially an old clio but I've just loved owning one.

For probably the last time.....thoughts appreciated guys, thanks in advance..

Dennis.
 
  XC90, 330d, Trophy’s
I was going to say anything between £1000 and £1250, so the above quoted price seems to fit closely with my thoughts aswell.

maybe as your brother what he thinks is a fair price, he will surely have a peek on autotrader/ebay and get a vague idea on prices for them aswell.
 

banther

ClioSport Club Member
Unfortunately - 172 in standard form (however mint) is the least desirable of the range (182, Cup, ph1 etc.) and looking around at prices £1250-1500 seems to be about right.

The ones at the top end have some desirable mods (exhaust, panel filters, Turini's / Speedlines) and also full history as well as evidence of being looked after by a 'specialist'. If its your brother - I hate to say it but I think you would be getting a good deal at £1250 - thats open market price.

If it were me - grit your teeth - lose £100 as a gesture and know its in good hands.
 
  172/vx220t/m135i
I was going to say anything between £1000 and £1250, so the above quoted price seems to fit closely with my thoughts aswell.

maybe as your brother what he thinks is a fair price, he will surely have a peek on autotrader/ebay and get a vague idea on prices for them aswell.

He's a cheeky chap, would see the cheapest 172 on autotrader @ 500 quid and offer me 400!
 
  XC90, 330d, Trophy’s
I think if it were me, considering what banther has highlighted above, and considering what you have said, id be happy to do my brother (or in my case, my sister) a favour and let them have it for £1k.
factor in their flight costs, the fuel to get it home, its still going to cost them a bit extra and a long day out to collect it.

£1000 for the car, and an agreement that next time you are all out together that the beer and meal are on him ;)
 
  172/vx220t/m135i
I think if it were me, considering what banther has highlighted above, and considering what you have said, id be happy to do my brother (or in my case, my sister) a favour and let them have it for £1k.
factor in their flight costs, the fuel to get it home, its still going to cost them a bit extra and a long day out to collect it.

£1000 for the car, and an agreement that next time you are all out together that the beer and meal are on him ;)

Yes think your not far off to be fair, if £1200-£1300 seems the consensus for a normal sale.
 
  RB 182 195bhp
To be fair, I wouldn't want to sell to a friend or family. If something big goes wrong with it a week later for something you were completely unaware of, it's just going to be awkward. He's going to think you offloaded, you'll feel bad etc.
Much easier to tell a stranger it's sold as seen IMO.
 
  XC90, 330d, Trophy’s
I don't think that will be an issue, if I genuinely thought there was an issue with anything I was selling, the last I would be doing is selling to a family member or close friend, and I'd imagine being brothers they would be the same.
one shouldn't be stitching up the other, and the other shouldn't think his brother would do that to him.
 
  RB 182 195bhp
I don't think that will be an issue, if I genuinely thought there was an issue with anything I was selling, the last I would be doing is selling to a family member or close friend, and I'd imagine being brothers they would be the same.
one shouldn't be stitching up the other, and the other shouldn't think his brother would do that to him.

I know that, and I understand, but if you re-read my post, I said something he doesn't know about. What if the cam belt snapped dispite not being due, or the coil pack fails, or it spits a plug out etc.
Those are unforeseen and no bodys fault, but still not going to put him in a nice situation when it comes up in conversation I'd imagine he would feel guilty that it had happened.
Just saying with a stranger its easier to turn round and say I'm very sorry but there is nothing I can say or do about that, its sold as seen.
 
  Listerine & Poledo
£1k.

Sik Modz are worthless, unless you're selling it to the right audience (ie CS). Many of the non-enthusiasts will just see a Clio with a big engine and loads of "rude boy" bolt ons
 
  172/vx220t/m135i
I know that, and I understand, but if you re-read my post, I said something he doesn't know about. What if the cam belt snapped dispite not being due, or the coil pack fails, or it spits a plug out etc.
Those are unforeseen and no bodys fault, but still not going to put him in a nice situation when it comes up in conversation I'd imagine he would feel guilty that it had happened.
Just saying with a stranger its easier to turn round and say I'm very sorry but there is nothing I can say or do about that, its sold as seen.

There is that risk that something could fail even with a well looked after example and there is that doubt whether it is worth the risk selling to a relative due to that very reason. He knows I wouldn't off load it to him if it was a shed but anything can happen with a car this age and it could cause tension in the future if something did happen. All I can do really is sell it cheaper to him than the market value and hope nothing major goes. I think £1k is a good price for him and I don't get the hassle of selling privately and being offered £300 because they have will pay in 'cash'!
 

Coops Mk1

ClioSport Club Member
  Lots of Scrap...
I'd understand the issue if it was a 10 grand car or something, but its a grand, in the great scheme of things a grand is sod all! and if the usual argument of 'a grand is a lot of money to some people' I would suggest he's overs stretching to run and insure a Clio sport then and shouldn't even be considering it.
 
  172/vx220t/m135i
I'd understand the issue if it was a 10 grand car or something, but its a grand, in the great scheme of things a grand is sod all! and if the usual argument of 'a grand is a lot of money to some people' I would suggest he's overs stretching to run and insure a Clio sport then and shouldn't even be considering it.

It's a fair point you make, it certainly isn't an issue him running a 172, just a little awkward if things do go wrong but for the price I'd say these cars are worth the risk.
 

Coops Mk1

ClioSport Club Member
  Lots of Scrap...
end of the day then chap, if he can afford it and if you fall out over a grand max if it breaks then I'd be more worried about your brotherly love tbh!lol! family is family, they forgive and forget or they aint family!
 
  172/vx220t/m135i
end of the day then chap, if he can afford it and if you fall out over a grand max if it breaks then I'd be more worried about your brotherly love tbh!lol! family is family, they forgive and forget or they aint family!

Yeah very true, plus he's in Aberdeen most the time so I'm well out the way :)
 


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