Slow Internet Connection = Stress

[Michael172]

Christ all mighty im guna have a fruckin hernia.

Karoo is so shite, were using 100 year old (you think im joking ???) copper wire which cant handle 8mb. The internet constantly drops on a night when everyone is on, and its only during the day when i get a good 700-800kbps download speed.

Apparantly BT and others wont move in and upgrade the wire because it isnt feasable, cost effective because we are a small town and they wouldnt make enough money from us. Hence why we are still prisoners to Kingson Communications. £1 for a phone bill too WTF !!!

Rant over tbh.

 

[Michael172]

f**k it im hitting the JD.

 

[Mike_182]

700-800kbps - you mean kBps or kbps? As they're very different. Either way though that's similar to what I get reliably over my BT line in my village...

 

[Bash]

http://www.broadbandwherever.net/?gcid=S18514x001&keyword=Internet%20Via%20Satellite

Tis ecpensive tho, Kingston are one of the best comunications companys now called affinity but they dont care about the little people.

 

[Michael172]

What is the difference?

The connection is advertised as Up to 8mb and i get a connection of 7.5mb ish.


Annoyingly we have been upgraded to adsl 2. However because my line is so old i am only able to get the 8mb. I live up an old lane so to speak and my line is shite, my friend who lives down the road is getting a 16mb connection ffs.

 

[David]

omg what the hell is wrong with 8mb download, most people don't get better than 2mb round my mums way...and thats still greater london!

 

[Michael172]

Its more of the internet's connection reliability !!!


On a night itll drop every 5 minutes ALL night.

 

[Mike_182]

FFS! You big fuckin homo - whining about 8meg broadband! Some people need to live in the real world - we only get 2meg, which is more than ample for what I tend to do! My webserver lives on a dedicated 100meg line, and the office we have a dedicated 10meg line... That serves an entire company!

Get real. Fool.

If you're having line reliability issues, tell them. They probably need to scale down your speed to increase stability.

 

[Phill1978]

Its more of the internet's connection reliability !!!


On a night itll drop every 5 minutes ALL night.

right, my connection dropped 85 times on the first night, the culprit was the adsl filter ! there re shite, poorley made the first thing o2 said was that this was the problem.. i doubted it but they were right. almost everyne ive spoken too has had to replace the filters, some every few months.
now it doesnt drop at all.

secondly.. are you for real ? 800k a sec ? thats actually amazing for 8mb broadband, ive rarely seen over 700k a sec on 12mb connections near a brandnew exchange.

im downloading 48-68mb xboxlive arcade demos in just a few minutes with 450kbs a sec on 8mb broadband (im at the end of a long street using 80yr old copper too, although i did sort myself a new faceplate and cleaned the wires)

most basic packages like mine on adsl2 8mb with o2 are never gonna get a huge speed.


8mb isnt megabyte m8 ! its megabits.. y`know like an old megadrive cartridge... its to the power of 8 i.e divide 1 megabyte by 8 and you have the ammount of megabits

8 bits = 1 byte

so 8megabits... divided by 8 = 1megabyte a second ! and you can get 700k-800k means your nearly there at maximum, also if you run wireless there are overheads that will slow that a little.


just so you know

 

[Rasclart]

At night have a look at the SNR in the router. I live right at the end of a line and get 1.4mb at VERY best. At this speed the SNR is down to 4db I have seen it drop to 0db before as well and still stay connected without any drops. The only router I found capable of this was the Netgear DG834G.

I also removed the ring wire from the master socket and am using a very good quality filter. It certainly helped me anyway

 

[Phill1978]

At night have a look at the SNR in the router. I live right at the end of a line and get 1.4mb at VERY best. At this speed the SNR is down to 4db I have seen it drop to 0db before as well and still stay connected without any drops. The only router I found capable of this was the Netgear DG834G.

I also removed the ring wire from the master socket and am using a very good quality filter. It certainly helped me anyway

good advice, on comercial routers you can alter the gain,attentuation properties as mentioned the provide can also do this on their exchange router but at the detriment to actual speed.

 

[Rasclart]

This was with Virgin, I have moved to talktalk they have put me on a 6db profile now and it is stable they will not lower it like Virgin did sadly. I get between 1.2-1.4mb. Main thing is it stays connected!

For downloading I just use my work connection with Newsgroups I get a constant 750-800KB/s download thats a business line.

Wait a few years for this

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/21cn_broadband.php

 

[Aluco]

I only get 2Meg,

Thats If I'm lucky

And I work for BT !

 

[BenWall]

I have 20mb and love it, but I do a lot of downloading.

2-4mb is good for just browsing the net.

The reason why your's drops at night is to do with the ISP splitting it up equally at the busiest times. Fair use an all that. Stop moaning b**ch.

 

[Phill1978]

im hopefull for wimax TBH.

i know im biased as thats my line of work but 6ghz and 600mbs potencial is nice, ok poor weather will allow for signal quality fluctuation + load balance of other street users but id still expect a healthy 10 megabite a second speed.

this would bypass the need for a bt line also, so if you just want to use your mobile fo calls and perhaps at home for skype then it could work out as cheap for more performance.

but lets be clear you are not getting 2,4,8 megabytes per second unless your really lucky !

mb is megabit a lot lower.

 

[MickM]

Have the same issue, really annoys me when can't get over 2MB a sec download

 

[Dafthead]

Kingston = FAIL

They're a bunch of c**k smokers

 

[jimbo666]

my router is sync'd at 8mbs, i get 830KB/s for news group d/l's living in an area full of old people ftw!!

 

[Adam K]

reading threads like this makes me cringe at the amount of misinformation spouted by people prentending they know what they are talking about.

"living in an area full of old people ftw!!"

wtf? does your street have it's own exchange? old people residing on your street has nothing to do with it, the rest of the users on your exchange might be heavy users.

"The reason why your's drops at night is to do with the ISP splitting it up equally at the busiest times. Fair use an all that. Stop moaning b**ch."

stop chatting sh*t, that isn't the reason at all.

 

[jimbo666]

ok, i am mis informed, thank you for pointing that out.

as you seem to be the guru, maybe you'd like to share your wealth of knowledge with us?

 

[Mike_182]

He has a point, so I'll butt in. What do you want to know? Maybe I can help

 

[Adam K]

ok, i am mis informed, thank you for pointing that out.

as you seem to be the guru, maybe you'd like to share your wealth of knowledge with us?

well i can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but i used to work for an ISP so yes i would say that i have a rough idea what the problem is

it's already been mentioned before though.

the reason your line drops at night is due to the SNR dropping down too low, really anything below 6db isn't ideal, although a decent line can hold signal if it drops lower, on my own line at home i run on a 3db profile.

if you are on an upto 8mb service and non LLU then in theory BT's DLM (dynamic line management) should automatically raise your target SNR, but this doesn't happen all the time as the system isn't too reliable, so your isp need to request with BT that they raise your SNR level manually.

alternatively if you are on LLU then your ISP should easily be able to change your line profile by either contacting their NOC, or some of the more tech savvie ISP's allow their tech support reps to change the profiles themselves there and then.

saying all of the above, i'm assuming your have performed all the usual trouble shooting steps first, plugging into the test socket, no other equipment plugged in other than the router, new filters, different router, etc.

 

[DamoWales]

I live in a little village, I've had to call TalkTalk to reduce my connection speed so that it becomes more reliable, Use to be gettin tidy speeds of around 300-400kbps, now i struggle to get 100 ffs. Living with parents FTL.

 

[Michael172]

So i was getting near 8mb (7.6 ish)


Upgraded my providings 7 days ago now, to adsl2. Up to 16mb, ok so i wasnt expecting 16mb, i was informed i could expect 10mb.



Im now getting under 6mb. Are they f**king retards ?
Wont be able to ring up until tuesday. Attenuation is 39db.


No doubt they will have looked at my line and determined that 10mb will be unstable, but whatever its at, its always unstable.