Whiteline ARB

[.Ben.]

Anyone got one?

Target price?

Benefits over stock?

 

[ForceIndia]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=453846&highlight=whiteline
I've emailed a supplier re. prices, and will see about a group buy when they get back to me.

 

[.Ben.]

Great! Hadn't seen that thread - just happened to be speaking to a friend of mine and he said uprated ARB's transformed how planted his car felt.

Whiteline was one of the first brands I looked at...

In that thread, it mentions an adjustable ARB being ~£105 - on Whiteline's site, it's £150!

 

[ForceIndia]

Standard non-adjustable is ~100. Adjustable is more like £130 plus. I'm looking around for the best deal.

 

[.Ben.]

I'm really interested, could you let me know if you sort anything Warren?

 

[Stava]

I know these have been proven to work really well on a lot of cars, like the mk4 golf, as these are heavy cars with a lot of body roll, however I think you should be weary as these do tend to make the rear end a little 'lively'.

Just a thought before you go and buy one.

 

[Stava]

found this.......Anti-roll bars provide two main functions. The first function is the reduction of body lean. The reduction of body lean is dependent on the total roll stiffness of the vehicle. Increasing the total roll stiffness of a vehicle does not change the steady state total load (weight) transfer from the inside wheels to the outside wheels, it only reduces body lean. The total lateral load transfer is determined by the CG height and track width.The other function of anti-roll bars is to tune the handling balance of a car. Understeer or oversteer behavior can be tuned out by changing the proportion of the total roll stiffness that comes from the front and rear axles. Increasing the proportion of roll stiffness at the front will increase the proportion of the total load transfer that the front axle reacts and decrease the proportion that the rear axle reacts. This will cause the outer front wheel to run at a higher slip angle, and the outer rear wheel to run at a lower slip angle, which is an understeer effect. Increasing the proportion of roll stiffness at the rear axle will have the opposite effect and decrease understeer.

I may be wrong but the part that is highlighted may refer to decreasing understeer, but may increase lift-off oversteer, or just oversteer in general. Feel free to flame me if I am wrong.

 

[ForceIndia]

Fred helped them with this review:
WE’VE TRIED IT: Another day, another Renault, this time a Clio 182 in issue 6 fitted with Whiteline’s adjustable anti-roll bar. This is a much simpler and cheaper mod than full coilovers, of course, but don’t dismiss it because of that – we thought it was an excellent consequence-free suspension upgrade that would work even better with a full chassis set-up. As it was, it turned a dynamically competent car into a scalpel-sharp front-driver with nothing more than a 20 minute bolt-on modification.

 

[Stava]

Lol, sweet. I may be having one then.

 

[riz]

Rated on ze golf forums alot

 

[Fred@BTM]

Fred helped them with this review:
WE’VE TRIED IT: Another day, another Renault, this time a Clio 182 in issue 6 fitted with Whiteline’s adjustable anti-roll bar. This is a much simpler and cheaper mod than full coilovers, of course, but don’t dismiss it because of that – we thought it was an excellent consequence-free suspension upgrade that would work even better with a full chassis set-up. As it was, it turned a dynamically competent car into a scalpel-sharp front-driver with nothing more than a 20 minute bolt-on modification.

where'd you find that? don't post my mug shot!

 

[ForceIndia]

where'd you find that? don't post my mug shot!

Google. Your pic was blocked by google on the grounds of decency.

 

[shiyan]

found this.......Anti-roll bars provide two main functions. The first function is the reduction of body lean. The reduction of body lean is dependent on the total roll stiffness of the vehicle. Increasing the total roll stiffness of a vehicle does not change the steady state total load (weight) transfer from the inside wheels to the outside wheels, it only reduces body lean. The total lateral load transfer is determined by the CG height and track width.The other function of anti-roll bars is to tune the handling balance of a car. Understeer or oversteer behavior can be tuned out by changing the proportion of the total roll stiffness that comes from the front and rear axles. Increasing the proportion of roll stiffness at the front will increase the proportion of the total load transfer that the front axle reacts and decrease the proportion that the rear axle reacts. This will cause the outer front wheel to run at a higher slip angle, and the outer rear wheel to run at a lower slip angle, which is an understeer effect. Increasing the proportion of roll stiffness at the rear axle will have the opposite effect and decrease understeer.

I may be wrong but the part that is highlighted may refer to decreasing understeer, but may increase lift-off oversteer, or just oversteer in general. Feel free to flame me if I am wrong.

More roll stiffness at the rear definitely decreases understeer / increases oversteer, so it's probably recommended for those suffering from understeer

I didn't think I needed it, but as I've had to raise the front of the car to avoid driveshafts rubbing on the body, I'm starting to have more understeer, so might end up having to get one