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I had 182, 172, 197 and now another 172. but it was a good move, the 197 is improved in all areas except straight line punch. defo nice all round step up.

defo not. You just get the speedlines.

yeh and evo timed the 200 0-100 in 16.7 secs - not bad!

Does anybody have any pictures of the front? I can't find any... The thing I don't like on the 200, is the black grill. However want to see how it all looks as one colour....

all my renaultsports (4) have been fault free - i think i must have been lucky though!! my only complaint on the mechanics front, is the cost of bits like brakes, cambelt changes etc. Happy days other wise. I have had a type r before, that actually broke! but again, prob 1 in a thousand. It...

on what grounds? Its 70odd kg heavier with only 1 more bhp?

audi tt from experience = not that reliable. in fact, from family ownership and a best friend having one, they have loads of bits go wrong. niggly and serious. My friends had/got gear box issues with the syncro and bulbs blowing, bearings going, bushes wearing - the list goes on.

looks awesome!

they also break, vag or not. they are shite.

They typically produce more not less. Normally 210-215.

lol at people saying it looks awful. I think thats abit steep, its not like you would walk past the car and think god that looks terrible. I think its quite subtle and works quite nicely really. Not something I would actively change myself, but not a bad mod.

182 - had for 10k miles (10k total), nothing went wrong 172 ph1 - had for 12k miles, (45k total) nothing went wrong 197 - had for 8k miles, (11k total) nothing went wrong 172 ph2 - 6k miles (41k total) so far and nothings gone wrong I have found that service part items, such as brakes and...

only niggle my 197 had was slightely rattley drivers window, was cool otherwise in 10k miles i had it

I like the idea on the R26r and im sure its fantastic to drive - just shame it looks so crap. The red wheels look dreadful. Why not black? When I create silly joke cars on Forza 2, I put red wheels on them!

Autocar lost all their good testers apart from colin goodwin, to drivers republic. Chris harris was there main guy and so much better. Started up their own site.

Because the S3s are in the same price range obvisouly :S

thats the problem with it. with these companies who offer these services, they cannot offer an accurate calculation. One car can have an amazing gearbox with 200hp at the wheels one car can have an awful gearbox with 200hp at the wheels the one with the awful gearbox in the above cases...

ib.ft per tonne is lower. its not so much that, its more the delievery of it. it doesnt have much till a higher rpm - my grudge was between 1-3k rpm there wasnt alot at all. i mean as soon as you built the revs up it got better.

Flywheel measurements are bullshit All measurements should be taken from the wheels. Its just the standard method is from the fly. God knows why it ever went down this route. The power is calulated from the wheels which is great. But how on earth does the rolling road know if the car has a...

Isnt the diff on the RS a problem child as well for being a pick on non smooth/wet surfaces i.e. pulling all over the shot. I hear some are better than others Is the ST much more expensive to run that the Clio?

Until its wet, and you gun it in 2nd or third on a tight corner???? tbh, 1 potential advantage they have in regards to traction is having the 2.5 engine weight up front. Can only be a good thing i guess for those seeking power. But much over 300bhp has to be where a awkward handling must...

and front wheel drive its a flaw when wanting loads of power

From owning all of them, I cant really detect much difference. However on way to trax last year (had the current 172 at this point with 35k miles) it was comfortably out pulling my friends 10k 197. he had a one person disadvantage however, which wouldnt help obvisouly. Anyway calling...

Thats awesome looking

I got an albi blue one ages ago! The clear perspex case cover bit has gone all funny though. Nice model!! :D Here is mine

197 for me, had them all and the 197s come on a long way overall

Why? The SMG boxes are shite! The manuals are fantastic in the M3. Far less to go wrong as well. Bet the SMG is big bucks to fix if it fails! (sure the manual isnt cheap neither though ;o))

I am lucky enough to have driven both, and between the two common or not, i would get the m3. Every single thing, bar maybe the novelty is in another world in the BMW. Performance, is a completely different ballpark not even worth discussion. M3 would eat the Vee. Interiors no point in...

the mk3 clio is basically the micra :D :D :D :D Abeit the Micra nicked the mirrors off the mk2 lol

yeah you might find the performance/characterics a bit of a shell shock - although not always bad. Quite rewarding tbh, chassis worth it