Hey everyone. I recently purchased my liquid yellow clio back in September. Being i just recently signed up to cliosport.net ive noticed my car has a lot of history through these forums. It's currently got 66,500 miles on the clock. Just wanted to know a few opinions from people. I bought for £3000 from a lovely bloke in Plymouth.
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VO54 Ffz new owner
- Thread starter Leon Swan
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The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Welcome buddy, i hate to be the barer of bad news but;
http://www.cliosport.net/threads/liquid-yellow-182-do-not-buy.746926/
http://www.cliosport.net/threads/liquid-yellow-182-do-not-buy.746926/
Advice dud
I'm gonna take to renault themselves to do the mot and service and see what they say about it. Only my luck
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
This car is heavily documented on here as one to avoid i hate to say pal. There are christ knows how many threads on here about it.
Also, i wouldn't take it to Renault either.
Also, i wouldn't take it to Renault either.
Only problem aroun
Yeah save to say I aint got a good car. This ain't good for me :/
I am the 6th owner of the vehicle. The guy in Plymouth was selling it due to moving jobs and needed a diesel which I saw and he was very honest in what he told me done to the car. The rear shocks and springs had been changed and he put a long life steel exaust on it.
I like to say this ain't a troll. I was originally going to buy a black 182 but was sold. I then went onto autotrader to see this 182 id seen on autotrader before but the owner said he went on holiday to Canada for which he took the advert down. Long story short it is it was a spur of the moment being he dropped the price by £1000 to get rid of it due to a new job. I am the 6th owner acorrding to all documents I have with the vehicle
Turbo 182 Alfa 159
When Fred looked over the car for an old buyer who got his money back.
Vehicle Report
Customer - Andrew Morley
Vehicle - Renault clio 182 - VO54 FFZ
Mileage - 32160
Mr Morley recently visited us so we could inspect a knocking noise coming from the front suspension, during conversation with Mr Morley he asked if we would cast our eye over the entire vehicle whilst it was in the workshop and see if the vehicle was mechanically sound incase of any future problems he may encouter with the vehicle (brakes, ball joint etc etc)
On first glance the car is in very good condition bodywork wise, the liquid gold paintwork was a factory option (cira £1100) and certainly offers the wow factor!
Unfortunatley for Mr Morley the bodywork is the only good thing we found with the car.
After removal of the engine undertray the starter motor heatshield was found sitting on the undertray, not where it should be! - a strange inital problem we thought! On inspection of the heatshield it seems to have been damaged, repaired poorly and then not fitted back onto the car properly (impossible to do without unbolting the exhaust manfold from the cylinder head).
starter motor heatsheild image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=fcf4a305.jpg
We also found a wheel speed sensor had been fitted very poorly to the OSF inner half shaft bearing, this certainly was an after market part, what was it doing there?
driveshaft sensor image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=45cfd0b7.jpg
We traced the wire back through the bulkhead into the vehicle and to our surprise found a very bizzare installation under the passenger footwell carpet and strange moddifications to the foot pedal on the drivers side
passenger footwell installation image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=70927ad3.jpg
clutch pedal moddification image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=83640b0f.jpg
chain mechanism behind clutch pedal image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=625bcf4a.jpg
After a bit of investigation we found the car had been installed with an electronically activated "twin clutch" aka - the vehicle at some point had been moddified for disabled user.
The problems highlighted thus far are relativley easy to rectify, removal of the motability unit we estimate at approx 3 hours, a new starter motor heat shield is £48 and takes 1.3 hours to fit.
On further inspection of the engine bay we found a few relativley major issues - the main one being that this 2004/2005 182 (F4R 738 engine) car has been fitted with a 2001 engine from the older 172 (F4R 730/2/6 engine)
as you can see from the following images -
note the raised breather tube in the middle at the back 172 engines had this, 182's did not - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=047ec81c.jpg
To compare, a 182 engine looks like this - http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/Fredmrsclio/?action=view¤t=182engine.jpg
date sticker on the rear of the block (VO54) ending in 01 - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=20982ca8.jpg
Without doubt this car VO54 has been fitted with the incorrect engine and isn't worth anywhere near market value
Vehicle Report
Customer - Andrew Morley
Vehicle - Renault clio 182 - VO54 FFZ
Mileage - 32160
Mr Morley recently visited us so we could inspect a knocking noise coming from the front suspension, during conversation with Mr Morley he asked if we would cast our eye over the entire vehicle whilst it was in the workshop and see if the vehicle was mechanically sound incase of any future problems he may encouter with the vehicle (brakes, ball joint etc etc)
On first glance the car is in very good condition bodywork wise, the liquid gold paintwork was a factory option (cira £1100) and certainly offers the wow factor!
Unfortunatley for Mr Morley the bodywork is the only good thing we found with the car.
After removal of the engine undertray the starter motor heatshield was found sitting on the undertray, not where it should be! - a strange inital problem we thought! On inspection of the heatshield it seems to have been damaged, repaired poorly and then not fitted back onto the car properly (impossible to do without unbolting the exhaust manfold from the cylinder head).
starter motor heatsheild image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=fcf4a305.jpg
We also found a wheel speed sensor had been fitted very poorly to the OSF inner half shaft bearing, this certainly was an after market part, what was it doing there?
driveshaft sensor image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=45cfd0b7.jpg
We traced the wire back through the bulkhead into the vehicle and to our surprise found a very bizzare installation under the passenger footwell carpet and strange moddifications to the foot pedal on the drivers side
passenger footwell installation image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=70927ad3.jpg
clutch pedal moddification image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=83640b0f.jpg
chain mechanism behind clutch pedal image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=625bcf4a.jpg
After a bit of investigation we found the car had been installed with an electronically activated "twin clutch" aka - the vehicle at some point had been moddified for disabled user.
The problems highlighted thus far are relativley easy to rectify, removal of the motability unit we estimate at approx 3 hours, a new starter motor heat shield is £48 and takes 1.3 hours to fit.
On further inspection of the engine bay we found a few relativley major issues - the main one being that this 2004/2005 182 (F4R 738 engine) car has been fitted with a 2001 engine from the older 172 (F4R 730/2/6 engine)
as you can see from the following images -
note the raised breather tube in the middle at the back 172 engines had this, 182's did not - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=047ec81c.jpg
To compare, a 182 engine looks like this - http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/Fredmrsclio/?action=view¤t=182engine.jpg
date sticker on the rear of the block (VO54) ending in 01 - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view¤t=20982ca8.jpg
Without doubt this car VO54 has been fitted with the incorrect engine and isn't worth anywhere near market value
The car has a full service history. The car wasn't driven that much during its first few years but it did have a renault service the first 3 times so I wilk take to renault being that they will know my car inside and out before they start. Body is still in excellent condition as doea interior
Greeny.
ClioSport Club Member
440i + 182
Ol’ Tarby
ClioSport Moderator
Clio 220 Trophy
If they know what a 182 is in the first place....
What area are you from? I'd suggest letting a local specialist look over it, rather than Renault
I live in New Quay. West Coast of Wales. This car has quite literally been all over the country
Ol’ Tarby
ClioSport Moderator
Clio 220 Trophy
Very nice part of the country, holiday'd there a few times
Sadly, I don't know of any specialists near to you.
Amen bro!!
MG ZR x2, Polo, CTR
Ahh my bad. Get that removed, Fred stated in his report that it wouldn't take much to remove it (get a specialist to do it)
If your South Wales im sure there's a specialist in Bristol or somewhere like that that you can take it to. Don't take it Renault they probably won't even know what model it is.
If your South Wales im sure there's a specialist in Bristol or somewhere like that that you can take it to. Don't take it Renault they probably won't even know what model it is.
The car is mechanicaly sound. Ain't had any bother with it so far. The clutch stuff is still there if needed to be turned back into a disabled car
BMW M4; S1000 RR
I'm calling custard.
Who starts a thread identifying their car by the number plate rather than what it is!?
Who starts a thread identifying their car by the number plate rather than what it is!?
To get peoples attention on that it looked I needed advice quickly because the car is famous among forums
It's funny, when I seen the title I just thought it was up for sale again! Unlucky dude. It's not a propblem owning the car per se, i'm sure it's fine, just if you ever come to sell it 90% of people looking for a 182 will avoid like the plague. The other 10% will never have heard of the car or Cliosport.net.
RS
Hey it's my old car! I tried my best to spread it across the Internet in the hope that no one would buy it without knowing it's history... Doesn't work if you search for the plate after the purchase though!
You did at least get it for less than I paid..! Having already seen the car I would recommend taking it back to Fred at BTM for any work or inspections you require.
Hope it hasn't put too much of a downer on her for you!
You did at least get it for less than I paid..! Having already seen the car I would recommend taking it back to Fred at BTM for any work or inspections you require.
Hope it hasn't put too much of a downer on her for you!
Cub.
ClioSport Moderator
Exactly this. Mine being one of those. Mine has a 182 engine, and not a 172.
Get the other issues resolved by a decent independant and I wouldn't worry too much about the engine.
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
I've been saying this for ages. Even the other day someone was asking about a 182 engine in a 172 and nobody batted an eyelid. To be honest by the time you've mated it up to the existing 182 manifold and inlets (needed for the fly by wire throttle IIRC), you'll make the same power and there will be no practical difference.
It's not even as if the other issues are particularly large either. Couple of hours to remove the disabled kit and fix the heat shield issue and hey presto, tidy 182. With factory fitted Sat nav too.
RB + LY 182 FF
You have got a rare sought after LY 182, credit it has old engine few old disability aids.
If it was me. I would fit a decent 182 engine with good history, remove the remaining aids and stick private plate on it, too many people on clio forums clock it, joke about it and if you do the above work it is back to decent car.
Don't be put off by anything, back to how it should be and no one car really complain, plenty have been bashed, blown engines and still sold on when been replaced/ fixed.
I'm actually jealous. Always said if price was right I'd buy, put it right , private plate one and I'd keep it too.
If it was me. I would fit a decent 182 engine with good history, remove the remaining aids and stick private plate on it, too many people on clio forums clock it, joke about it and if you do the above work it is back to decent car.
Don't be put off by anything, back to how it should be and no one car really complain, plenty have been bashed, blown engines and still sold on when been replaced/ fixed.
I'm actually jealous. Always said if price was right I'd buy, put it right , private plate one and I'd keep it too.
