ChatGPT (AI)

[James]

At the same time it's scary how dependent I am on it already

Said this to my mate the other day. Most spare evenings I'm in my office designing and making various things all using AI. Stuff that I couldn't even dream of being able to do 2 years ago.
I've now got ESP32 devices coded doing all sorts of s**t. Touchscreens, wireless scales etc etc yet I've not actually LEARNT how to do any of it. To my family and friends I look like a f**king genius, yet turn AI off tomorrow and I'll go back to being thick as f**k

Long live AI!

 

[charltjr]

Likewise IT support is going to take a hammering.

When that PHP nonsense landed last week, Claude had identified how it applied to us, talked me through putting mitigations in place, then worked up the full final solution for us all before our hosting company had even got their first email out of the door.

I'm sure some stuff will persist for peace of mind and SLA guarantees but a lot of the smaller scale stuff is just dead now.

Yep, absolutely.

I’m AI-ing myself out of a job as we speak. I think the only thing likely to save me is that I have deep domain knowledge in a custom product which no LLM has much of a handle on. I’d hate to be a specialist in anything industry standard about now.

 

[charltjr]

Case in point - Canva.

Business built on providing simple templates for users to build their own content with. Well, they’re doomed then.

Canva announces major job cuts after 'our hardest year yet' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw77pg7neydmo

 

[Louis]

Ai cant continue to be at the current price point though. Are any profitable?

 

[Louis]

Is AI Profitable Yet?

isaiprofitable.com

 

[charltjr]

Ai cant continue to be at the current price point though. Are any profitable?

Nope. We’re still in the “bait” stage of “bait and switch”

 

[Louis]

Nope. We’re still in the “bait” stage of “bait and switch”

Wait until everyone's using ai to run their systems, dismiss all trained staff who previously would run it, increase credit token value to £1000 each.

 

[charltjr]

It’s interesting, some businesses are using open source models, some are training their own models, and there’s a few who are starting to host their own AI infrastructure and making big savings.

British fintech Revolut slashes AI coding costs 10x by cutting out Claude and going self-hosted

Turns out cheap tokens get engineers doing things that save time, like debugging and tackling Jira tickets

www.theregister.com

It’s just another way the whole house of cards is starting to look a bit sketchy.

I know that an awful lot of big banks and other financial institutions have no interest at all in using AI which isn’t under their direct control.

 

[Archtronics]

It’s interesting, some businesses are using open source models, some are training their own models, and there’s a few who are starting to host their own AI infrastructure and making big savings.

British fintech Revolut slashes AI coding costs 10x by cutting out Claude and going self-hosted

Turns out cheap tokens get engineers doing things that save time, like debugging and tackling Jira tickets

www.theregister.com

It’s just another way the whole house of cards is starting to look a bit sketchy.

I know that an awful lot of big banks and other financial institutions have no interest at all in using AI which isn’t under their direct control.

Did they account for the 56 Nvidia B200 GPUs in the cost of the local system I wonder.

 

[charltjr]

Did they account for the 56 Nvidia B200 GPUs in the cost of the local system I wonder.

Massive tax write offs on AI infrastructure will help, offset 100% of the costs against tax in the year of purchase.

Then ongoing savings and having complete control too. Probably helps that Revolut are drowning in cash too

 

[CrippsCorner]

Is AI Profitable Yet?

isaiprofitable.com

That's maaad. Just sent to my AI S&S people!

 

[Rskennedy]

Case in point - Canva.

Business built on providing simple templates for users to build their own content with. Well, they’re doomed then.

Canva announces major job cuts after 'our hardest year yet' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw77pg7neydmo

soon as I heard that they call employees Canvanaughts I threw up onto my laptop

 

[Donny_Dog]

Id advise caution in replacing business dependent systems with self prompt AI builds.
Yes, productivity and workflows, smaller systems and processes, but having it build and control dependant interconnected micro services and support it for business... Make sure you risk assess it!
Its infrastructure it's built on needs supporting and understanding. Claude won't know the underlay and dependencies. What if it is offline, it can't connect and fix anything broken. What about data, ownership, backup, and restore - make sure you know how to do it. Make sure it documents how it works for a human and tests a wipe and rebuild + replatform.

There's more to it, but you could unravel core business if it goes wrong. Caution is all I'm saying. I see small businesses being unleashed here, but above that... Just think about it and talk to the tech teams.

LGTM mentality is upon us

 

[R3k1355]

There are still issues to work through with an AI based tool deployment though, like who is responsible for security scanning and support? Who validates and owns compliance?

You are. The AI company will completely wash it's hands of anything you use it's agents to build.

I'm sure there will be plenty of companys that assume otherwise, and get themselves in a right pickle.

 

[charltjr]

You are. The AI company will completely wash it's hands of anything you use it's agents to build.

I'm sure there will be plenty of companys that assume otherwise, and get themselves in a right pickle.

Absolutely, has nothing to do whatsoever with the AI companies. It was more of a rhetorical question.

One of the things I’m being very careful of where I work is to make sure that any tools Claude suggests would be useful to integrate into what I’m building are already on our open source software approval list, or I need to go and get those approvals. Licensing and redistribution of open source software for commercial use is another topic that people without industry knowledge simply won’t be likely to have understanding of.

 

[dann2707]

I'm finding the disconnect between good quality work and ai.

I'm having lots of AI generated models being fired my way for 3d printing, which is great for business but as someone's who's had to model things by scratch since uni (2010) see little things like this is quite disappointing, not the artifacts but just the acceptance of meh, they're there, don't worry.

I called this out to a customer thinking it was a feature of some sort but no it was just as a result of ai making it and when I picked up on it the response was "yeah that's just an imperfection from ai don't worry" but the scary thing is that, has just been accepted.

It's like the poor workmanship of new builds, it's just accepted and that drive for quality is there.

 

[Oggy997]

It's refreshing to see that perspective from non-IT people, of course it's revolutionary and empowers people to achieve things they're not capable (time/knowledge/skill) to do themselves.

I find when I raise issues with it's output, people default to thinking I'm chastising it because it threatens what I do, but it's not that, it's that for someone that can't do it themselves, it appears amazing (and it is) - but it's far from perfect & not having that same skill/knowledge/time to review it, means you don't really know what imperfections there are.

 

[charltjr]

Even in IT, if you don’t know what you’re actually doing the outputs it gives can be hot garbage, or downright dangerous in some cases.

It’s an incredibly useful and powerful tool, it’s letting me do things that I wouldn’t have dreamed of before in terms of toolset development. The last time I coded in anger was over 20 years ago. But if you just let it do whatever it thinks is right, you are gonna get in a serious mess