Replaced cluth recently and its still slipping Clutch

[welshname]

Hi,

I had my clutch replaced in march due to it slipping slightly at biting point when setting off or on hill starts.

Now the clutch was knackered and did definatley need replacing but this slight slipping was still there. It has now got even worse and when there are a few people in the car setting off on a hill it smells like egg and really struggles.

What could be causing this as I had a full clutch kit fitted.

Thanks!

 

[rampantreaper]

driving lessons

 

[Scrooge]

Smelling like egg? Sounds like the cat, are you sure it's slipping and not just struggling?

 

[welshname]

Smelling like egg? Sounds like the cat, are you sure it's slipping and not just struggling?

thats what i though, but no it definatley feels like its slipping. When i go to set off (mainly on a hill) you can feel it almost juddering and then taking a while to grip again. Someone said release bearing but its definatley been changed along with the rest of the clutch kit in march and since then its been getting progressivley worse.

 

[welshname]

driving lessons

Cheers for that, why not take lessons in being a successful troll because that was s**t.

 

[Fred@BTM]

sounds like it either wasn't done right, a cheapo part was used or something is seriously fucked

 

[Tunst]

sounds like it either wasn't done right, a cheapo part was used or something is seriously f**ked

This...


You could try pulling away quite fast, if the clutch is fucked it will deffo slip then if its not then you will either pull away quickly or smoke the front wheels up for a second or 2 :rasp:

 

[welshname]

Now if i pull away fast it doesn't properly slip... like it doesn't rev and go no where but you can feel it proper struggling to keep hold. it does spin the wheels up though. maybe its the gearbox thats fucked and the cat

 

[rampantreaper]

Cheers for that, why not take lessons in being a successful troll because that was s**t.

sorry ws best i could do on a saturday. did they get clutch plate wrong way round? see tht before but would be hard to get gears.
drive it up road about 30mph , slap it in fourth and boot it. if its gonna slip it will be under load.

 

[rampantreaper]

Now if i pull away fast it doesn't properly slip... like it doesn't rev and go no where but you can feel it proper struggling to keep hold. it does spin the wheels up though. maybe its the gearbox thats f**ked and the cat

gearboxes dont slip unless its an auto

 

[welshname]

sounds like it either wasn't done right, a cheapo part was used or something is seriously f**ked

Was definatley done proper. The guy who works on my car is an ex renault mechanic (not worked there for years and is very good unlike most) He used genuine parts from renault and has definatley done it right because the clutch was perfect when i got it back but this slipping/juddering problem was exactly the same as it was before i got it changed but has gradually got worse... So im unsure what it is.

 

[rampantreaper]

doesnt sound like clutch slip then

 

[sideways danny]

oil leaking onto the clutch?

 

[welshname]

How can I check??? There us a knock coming from around the same area under the car when going slow over rough ground. Rekon that's something separate or linked? I've got side to side and up and down play in the gear stick aswell when in gear and accelerating

 

[olliewebbuk]

Surely if the job was only done recently you should just take it back to where it was done? Telling them it clearly wasn't done right.

 

[welshname]

I would but he's a family friend and lives down the road from me. Im not going to screw him over

 

[R754 Alex]

Either way you look at it, its broken and needs to be fixed. If it was me I'd take it to the chap who did it for you, just ask him nicely to take a look at it FOC just explain what's happening, ten minutes of his time wont be putting him out of pocket, if its related to his work then that's down to him to fix it as you have already paid for your car to be fixed, and its not. If its nothing to do with his work or any of the parts used and turns out to be something else then get your wallet back out with him, or take it to a specialist to check it out and advise you on the best route to take.

 

[welshname]

Yeah i would do, but he's on holiday for a month...but i know it's nothing to do with him so i know its going to cost me money, was just looking for any ideas on what it might be so i know what to expect.

 

[Martin_172]

I would but he's a family friend and lives down the road from me. Im not going to screw him over

sounds more like hes screwed you over...

sounds like possible oil leaking onto the clutch

 

[welshname]

sounds more like hes screwed you over...

sounds like possible oil leaking onto the clutch

Not really. He replaced the clutch as it went. the struggling bit was still the same before and after. I don't understand why no one can read threads properly on here. Does anyone know a way i can check this?

 

[sideways danny]

the only way you'll be able to tell it to remove the gearbox.

I expect there is an oil leak from the gearbox main shaft seal that is getting onto the clutch, and your man hasn't spotted it so it's contaminated the new clutch just as it did the old one. I wouldn't strongly blame him, but it's maybe a bit sloppy

 

[welshname]

the only way you'll be able to tell it to remove the gearbox.

I expect there is an oil leak from the gearbox main shaft seal that is getting onto the clutch, and your man hasn't spotted it so it's contaminated the new clutch just as it did the old one. I wouldn't strongly blame him, but it's maybe a bit sloppy

Thanks for the sensible reply! A few people need to not bother replying due to knowing nothing. What sort of labour and parts costs am i looking at if this is the case? What other symptoms would there be?

 

[sideways danny]

I'm £450 all in for parts and labour on a clutch change now (clutch price just gone up loads!!!) Off the top of my head I'm not sure how much the shaft seal is, but i'd thing in the region of £10-£15

 

[welshname]

Thats pretty cool. Bit steep for a non sport though? but i suppose you get what you pay for. Thanks for your help. I shall have to wait and see what happens.

 

[sideways danny]

oh sorry, I'd assumed it was a 2 litre as you'd not said otherwise. What is it?

 

[Martin_172]

Not really. He replaced the clutch as it went. the struggling bit was still the same before and after. I don't understand why no one can read threads properly on here. Does anyone know a way i can check this?

clearly your not reading the advice your receiving.

as danny said it sounds like the gearbox main shaft seal is leaking onto the clutch, personally if im changing a slipping clutch the first thing im going to do when the box is off is have a look to see why its slipping, general wear and tear or something causing it.

had yer boy done this you could be saving yourself the price of a new clutch and labour to change it...

 

[welshname]

oh sorry, I'd assumed it was a 2 litre as you'd not said otherwise. What is it?

1.2 16V.

And Martin, I appreciate what you are saying but the clutch HAD GONE, completely. So it needed replacing, I didn't even mention the other thing to him as I just assumed it was because it was on its way out. But people come in here taking every opportunity to slate someone else's work I don't appreciate, I came in to ask for advice on a problem, not for people to tell me what my mechanic may or may not have done wrong. If I wanted that, I would have asked.

 

[Martin_172]

and why had the clutch gone? ive replaced 1 1.2 16v clutch, it was an ex driving school learner abused car on 140,000 miles. what miles was it on?

 

[welshname]

and why had the clutch gone? ive replaced 1 1.2 16v clutch, it was an ex driving school learner abused car on 140,000 miles. what miles was it on?

I'm not technical enough to know unfortunately pal. I let my ex drive it 1 night (she has never driven in her life) and although we got a nice wheel spin (not what i was expecting) we were greeted with a lot of smoke and it never felt the same to drive since then. Then I went for a blast over Holmfirth near where I live, went to plant it in second coming out of a corner and I got nothing just revs

 

[olliewebbuk]

But people come in here taking every opportunity to slate someone else's work I don't appreciate

He's hardly being slated, you're being overly precious about it.

We all make mistakes, yes it would be a little sloppy if he missed it but I'm sure much better people have missed worse things.

 

[welshname]

He's hardly being slated, you're being overly precious about it.

We all make mistakes, yes it would be a little sloppy if he missed it but I'm sure much better people have missed worse things.

But the thing is. I didn't come in here asking for your opinion on his work.

 

[olliewebbuk]

I give up.

You went full r****d.

 

[welshname]

I give up.

You went full r****d.

Quite clearly. Next time try not using an internet phrase to feel victorious. And please, unless you are coming into my thread to be helpful, just stay the f**k out?

Thanks!

 

[olliewebbuk]

I tried being helpful. Lots of people have. You just became aggressive to all of them. That is full r****d.

 

[welshname]

I tried being helpful. Lots of people have. You just became aggressive to all of them. That is full r****d.

Not been aggressive. Where have I been aggressive? I was getting annoyed with the lack of help and people just telling me he had done a s**t job. No please, f**k off back to the "sound system" thread where people can call you a c**t some more.

 

[Martin_172]

either way if the clutch is slipping get the gearbox off, everything inspected to see whats causing it first before you go replacing clutches again

 

[welshname]

either way if the clutch is slipping get the gearbox off, everything inspected to see whats causing it first before you go replacing clutches again

Thanks!

 

[Kitestyle]

Many years ago I had an old diahatsu that went thru 5 clutches due to 2 oil leaks and bad mechanics not picking them up.

The best way to tell is to find a steepish hill. Change to top gear half way up and floor it. If it revs up you're slipping. This is a better test than off the line.