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Lol. Plank.

I bought an xbox just for forza. Then sold it.

Why the need for comparisons? Some people will prefer forza, others gt. And most people will probably have one console, so the comparison is null and void. Starting to feel like apple vs pc's!!

That's the official wheel, works brilliantly.

9min 11s my best so far.

How does that work fella?

Played it all bloody day! This is going to ruin my marriage lol.

The merc is superb, favourite car so far.

Are the thumb buttons on the wheel analogue? Be useful for photo mode.

Yes. It's very similar to mine, but the analog thumb sticks on the wheel are useful for photo mode etc. The wheel/pedals and the basics are the same. It's brilliant. You can get the driving force pro (mine) on ebay quite cheap.

Nonsense. The wheel packs up in 2mins. Attaches to my table in 2mins. No one needs a full gaming chair etc, just ott.

Right. So spending hours on cs is ok. But having a wheel makes you a 40yr old virgin? ;) It's much more enjoyable with a wheel. But then every driving game is.

Love being able to go from main to full beam in the night races! Pointless, but nice.

Buy a wheelstand pro as well. The wireless wheels without pedals are a bit pointless sadly, the throttle/brake control is very useful with pedals.

I'm using the driving force pro, had it for yrs. Was the official gt4 wheel iirc

F40. They're old, surely cheap these days.

I don't get the obsession with eliminating roll tbh. My 172 on KW V2's rolled on the softest front setting on track, firmest on the rear with the ARB. Bags of traction, adjustable, and quicker than most of the R26 boys at Oulton. Firmer we went on the front, the slower it went.

It does make me want to try forza with a wheel now!

If I can get my bloody dad off the game, I'll start GT mode.

Or the inevitable "did I lock it??" moment.

Right, had a few goes now (with the steering wheel), mainly arcade mode as there's a few of us playing. It's brilliant so far. Maybe the GT mode will frustrate me, not sure. But, I can't imagine how crap it would feel with a pad. Driving the McLaren with the wheel, you can feel as you get to...

That's the problem. Everyone should know that a long gestation period rarely make a game perfect, but for some reason people expect that? And getting upset because you can't change 'da rimz'? Come now kids, don't be silly;)

Yes, would make life so much easier.

I'm amazed at how much I like keyless. I thought it would be a gimmick, but I'm a tiny bit flummoxed by a key now. I drove dad's car the other day, bloody stupid. Turn key, clutch, then start button. Be quicker and easier finding a scouse to hot wire it.

I drove a clio with a 'key' the other day. I wanted to see how the paupers roll. FYI, it's not fun.

Good tip. I'll give that a whirl if mines slow.

Loads of threads/pics. Do a search.

40mins to install. Will give it a bash later when I can get my wheel setup. Won't even bother trying with the pad, most likely be useless.

Taxi on the left? He's past him before it goes? Bell-end driving either way.

Agree. Nowhere near the taxi. Guys that own Harrods iirc? Or are they blue?