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Well.. I guess it's the same , just looks a little bit different. It can't harm to have another one 😅

@NorthloopCup is that what we talked about ? 😅 It's about time really! I'm on progress to fit a 197 complete engine in a 172 she'll. Knowing it has been done before by Mark, I was confident to start working on a loom to accept the 197 cam position sensor/coil on plug/ 197 dephaser and so on...

Hi @Kev@KAM it's not all of it, but i hope it's help somehow

Shut up and take my money 🤣

any advantage using 172 head instead 197 ?

what is the power/weight regulation on your class ,can you go a bit higher, or you already on the limit ? looks like you have the upper hand in the corners, but not enough on the Straight ...

good to see it going mate ! what was your choice of engine build in the end ?

Excuse me for my English. it is not my first language, there for I'm not always respond or have the courage to start a build thread. However, i know the feeling mate... Having a project car for about 3 years now, with allot of progress go into it, but never started a build thread. Your project...

I wish you would keep this thread update mate 😭

that's the one im using .. 330 mm

Nardi personal blitz 330 Have this one few years now.. So comfortable, I'd love it http://www.nardi- personal.com/personal/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=218:blitz-8474-32-2001&catid=59&Itemid=288&lang=en

Can I pay you to be my friend too ?

people done 172 conversation on clio mk1. so i cant see why the 197 lump wont be the same. as i have on my daily ph1 197 engine..

You can do it this way.. it's more easy to get prices adjustment when it's completely out. Really depends on you mate : )

Nope.. just re adjust the tention as much as possible.

get it done before you do corner weighting then :)

i never understand it either, the epas is solid as you said. maybe it have something to do with the epas have more "blind spot" in the middle unlike the hydraulic one. as for the rack bushing. once you get the right adjusting, you no longer have that famous knock when turning the steering .

had that problem long time ago. 2 things you need's to do, and the steering becomes better then ever. first, there's very small rubber in the column where the u joint connect to the rack. just weld it, it's take most of the play, and make the steering much more precise. second, get the rack...

can't believe I've missed this one. Definitely gonna subscribe!

well.. you can throw 197 pistons in there and get your cp up to 12.1 with timed up correctly 197 cams. you would be essay pass the 200

Working with 172 dephaser perfect.. Need to drill one hole, very easy job.

it will be much better to use 197 head with 197 piston's and cams.. all along alot less work, and the 197 head is far superior then the 172. food for thought I guess

@Giacomo-RS don't worry about that, as the electric column is longer. its direct fit..

what happens to this build thread ? dose it continue on somewhere else ?

do you remember the bearing sizes ?

Hey all. I was wondering if anyone try 182 cup hubs on 172.. I've seen there is different in the akermann on the hubs. Is it something worth doing ?

Thanks again, that's make sense now :)

@GrahamS if i may. i'm not sure iv'e got it right, for example: pin 15 green, in multiplug 502. going to 225 diagnostic socket. so i guess 225 is the diagnostic connector right ? but to what pin it go to ? what hk7 code means ? lol sorry if its bothers , really in the middle of connecting it...

ty so much. this is super helpful !

sorry to bump this again. @GrahamS can you please upload the excel file you did again ? the link is no more available unfortunately.