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Well the mini Cooper S is 14500 but you need to buy the chilli pack to get a nice few extras like xeon lights, 17"s, air con etc etc...... that cost 1375 more i think..... They aint bad cars though.............

Dont get them they are sh*t.... get some different tyres!

I wouldnt buy an import as they are not worth nothing when you sell em.... I would buy from one of those warehouse places they knock them out for 13k

Well the mini Cooper S is 14500 but you need to buy the chilli pack to get a nice few extras like xeon lights, 17"s, air con etc etc...... that cost 1375 more i think..... They aint bad cars though.............

The Honda does when its reving to 9k!!! Myself I quite like the Civics.... build quality and reliablity is much better than the renault.....

Prob coz its lightweight?

Well I just went for the stainless K-Tec system CAT back.... 200 odd quid...

Its not its 172 BHP!!!!! quoted renault web site Fuel Type Unleaded Petrol Injection Type Multipoint Injection Maximum Power - bhp DIN (kw ISO) 172 (124) Maximum Power (revs/min) 6250 Maximum Torque - Nm ISO (mkg DIN) 200 (20.7)...

On the renault web it says bhp....

You void what you touch is the going thing.... If you lower it then they will void anything that can go wrong with your car because of that.... But generally Renault are pretty good about mods...

You cant trust the readings at the flywheel unless you take your engine out and put it on a dyno.... Renault advertise the 172 as having 172 bhp so all of them will be around 172 at the flywheel give or take 5 or so coz no engine is the same.....

lol hey how u remember that...... Its still bloody hard to kick that rear out though... sometimes I try my hardest and it just does not budge. But I have had people in the car saying it does 4 wheel steer.... I love a bit of sideways.

Exactly aaron... But now and again u have a larf right! R3OBC I always expect my back end to come out.... if I take corners faster than normal road users do im 2 hands waiting for the unexpected to happen and have saved my arse end many times.

I often have a play in all weather condishions and can feel the difference... I believe you can improve your driving skills buy practising driving as quick as the road condishions let you. Obviosly if it says -1 then you cant take that corner flat out and cant press the gas as hard as u...

Thats so crap... my 2002 renault I had to saw off the exhaust to put the new one on... I tried everything to get it off but honestly if you dont have one of those things where u can lift of the whole car I can see no way of doing it.

Hmmmm..... I would like to hear that Tom........

lol the 1.6 16v is 110 bhp and its a dynamique which is there sporty option. Super 1600 i dont have a clue coz thats a rally highly tuned car....

lol Swift GTis 1.3 16v twin cam... about 105 bhp standard but they are very very light and flimsy... I think 0-60 is pretty quick but a 172 will kill it. unless its running highly modded... only way to know is to try... if you lose then mod your car lol

sounds fun KDF.... one day soon mate I will be joining u sub 7 seconds boys....

Its may be better than having the airbox coz it dont need to suck through that silly little pipe.... Induction kits also have more surface area than that poor little filter so induction kits should be more free flowing.... But if you think its given you more power then keep it like that.... I...